Tom Brady Will Sue the NFL in Federal Court

[NEPatsfan]

But why would federal court issue preliminary injunction in this case? From what I have read, they require that someones rights have been violated. Does TB have the right to play NFL football? I think the court would consider that a waste of time. Also, from what I read prelimary injunctions are not granted that often and require that irreparable injury would be suffered by the plantiff. Missing a few games doesn't constitute that. Also, they are typically only granted if the party asking appears that it will win the case.

In any case, it is no guarantee the court will grant one.

In these type situation they are nearly granted every time, I have no idea where the heck you read otherwise.

Losing one fourth of your yearly salary is considered "irrearable injury".

 

[{+}Mother-Marge{+}]

No you don't. Stop lieing.
Because if Brady is vindicated you would probably want to kill yourself.

......kill himself...?,........I'll fkkn kill him, .....!?

 

[{+}Mother-Marge{+}]

*........*MM drives to Wal-Mart to buy Gatorade and radiator-fluid*.

 

[BigKen]

Yet you run away from the very most basic questions.

I've answered your basic quaetions before, but you don't like the answers so you keep asking the same questions over and over hoping I'll change my answers. SO I'll answer your favorite one>>>>

Why would Goodell do anything to the Super Bowl MVP? or something like that.

1. Emotions. Roger Goodell is a New York Jets fan, always has been, always will be. He celebrated when Bill Parcells left the Patriots after losing the Super Bowl to the Packers to coach the Jets. When Parcells left, Belichick was supposed to take over, but instead left NY for New England. Goodell despises Belichick. Emotions have no rhyme or reason.

2. In 2000, Belichick drafts an unknown QB from Michigan who goes on to become the greatest QB in NFL history. Goodell knows that if Belichick had stayed in New York, Brady would be the Jets QB. He hates Brady because he doesn't play for the Jets.

3. Goodell, much like Tedman, Tgann, Money hates the Patriots not because of anything more than human emotion. Doesn't "need" a reason, he just does, and the four Super Bowl Championships that reside in Foxboro, MA, belong in Metlife Stadium in New Jersey.

Just look at this message board........the emotion that runs through here is the same with every person that responds. They love their team, hate yours. Goodell, regardless of his position today, still loves his Jets and hates the Patriots.

Please copy and print this and you can stop asking the same quaetion every week.

 

[PatsFan2003]

But why would federal court issue preliminary injunction in this case? From what I have read, they require that someones rights have been violated. Does TB have the right to play NFL football? I think the court would consider that a waste of time. Also, from what I read prelimary injunctions are not granted that often and require that irreparable injury would be suffered by the plantiff. Missing a few games doesn't constitute that. Also, they are typically only granted if the party asking appears that it will win the case.

In any case, it is no guarantee the court will grant one.

If the courts feel there is a case, an injunction is pretty common. Think about it, you shouldn't be punished if you're not determined to be guilty yet. Although at this level its to determine whether you got a fair trial or not rather than guilt.

 

[Tgann69]

I've answered your basic quaetions before, but you don't like the answers so you keep asking the same questions over and over hoping I'll change my answers. SO I'll answer your favorite one>>>>

Why would Goodell do anything to the Super Bowl MVP? or something like that.

1. Emotions. Roger Goodell is a New York Jets fan, always has been, always will be. He celebrated when Bill Parcells left the Patriots after losing the Super Bowl to the Packers to coach the Jets. When Parcells left, Belichick was supposed to take over, but instead left NY for New England. Goodell despises Belichick. Emotions have no rhyme or reason.

2. In 2000, Belichick drafts an unknown QB from Michigan who goes on to become the greatest QB in NFL history. Goodell knows that if Belichick had stayed in New York, Brady would be the Jets QB. He hates Brady because he doesn't play for the Jets.

3. Goodell, much like Tedman, Tgann, Money hates the Patriots not because of anything more than human emotion. Doesn't "need" a reason, he just does, and the four Super Bowl Championships that reside in Foxboro, MA, belong in Metlife Stadium in New Jersey.

Just look at this message board........the emotion that runs through here is the same with every person that responds. They love their team, hate yours. Goodell, regardless of his position today, still loves his Jets and hates the Patriots.

Please copy and print this and you can stop asking the same quaetion every week.

Yawn.

 

[TheRangerDude]

In these type situation they are nearly granted every time, I have no idea where the heck you read otherwise.

Losing one fourth of your yearly salary is considered "irrearable injury".

Injunction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TheRangerDude]

In these type situation they are nearly granted every time, I have no idea where the heck you read otherwise.

Losing one fourth of your yearly salary is considered "irrearable injury".

Also, can you cite any evidence that in these type of situations it is granted every time? Again the issue is you have not right to a job, so I am not understanding how a federal court can reverse a suspension. What law or previous case has given the feds the right to tell an employer they can't suspend someone? This is socialism, not capitalism.

 

[TheRangerDude]

If the courts feel there is a case, an injunction is pretty common. Think about it, you shouldn't be punished if you're not determined to be guilty yet. Although at this level its to determine whether you got a fair trial or not rather than guilt.

If it is common can you cite any examples where a suspension from any type of work has been reversed by an injunction? The issue here, is you are saying the federal government has the last say on employees punishments issued by employers. If this was the case, every time someone got fired, there would be a law suit. Also, people could sue for their jobs back - not sure why you would do that but it would happen if it was possible.

 

[HammerDown]

I've answered your basic quaetions before, but you don't like the answers so you keep asking the same questions over and over hoping I'll change my answers. SO I'll answer your favorite one>>>>

Why would Goodell do anything to the Super Bowl MVP? or something like that.

1. Emotions. Roger Goodell is a New York Jets fan, always has been, always will be. He celebrated when Bill Parcells left the Patriots after losing the Super Bowl to the Packers to coach the Jets. When Parcells left, Belichick was supposed to take over, but instead left NY for New England. Goodell despises Belichick. Emotions have no rhyme or reason.

2. In 2000, Belichick drafts an unknown QB from Michigan who goes on to become the greatest QB in NFL history. Goodell knows that if Belichick had stayed in New York, Brady would be the Jets QB. He hates Brady because he doesn't play for the Jets.

3. Goodell, much like Tedman, Tgann, Money hates the Patriots not because of anything more than human emotion. Doesn't "need" a reason, he just does, and the four Super Bowl Championships that reside in Foxboro, MA, belong in Metlife Stadium in New Jersey.

Just look at this message board........the emotion that runs through here is the same with every person that responds. They love their team, hate yours. Goodell, regardless of his position today, still loves his Jets and hates the Patriots.

Please copy and print this and you can stop asking the same quaetion every week.

You are incredible. You honestly believe that, don't you? Astonishing...

 

[PatsFan2003]

If it is common can you cite any examples where a suspension from any type of work has been reversed by an injunction? The issue here, is you are saying the federal government has the last say on employees punishments issued by employers. If this was the case, every time someone got fired, there would be a law suit. Also, people could sue for their jobs back - not sure why you would do that but it would happen if it was possible.

Why do you make me work so hard...

It's not so much reversed but the punishment is put on hold.

NFL Lockout: Judge Susan Nelson Rules For The Players On Injunction - Business Insider

Judge blocks NFL's drug suspensions of 5 players

Jonathan Vilma of New Orleans Saints files notice of injunction over suspension

The next round you're going to have to do the legwork yourself

Sometimes people can and do sue and try to get an injunction until their case works through the court system but it's not free... You have to pay for such representation.

 

[TheRangerDude]

Why do you make me work so hard...

It's not so much reversed but the punishment is put on hold.

NFL LockouInt: Judge Susan Nelson Rules For The Players On Injunction - Business Insider

Judge blocks NFL's drug suspensions of 5 players

Jonathan Vilma of New Orleans Saints files notice of injunction over suspension

The next round you're going to have to do the legwork yourself

Sometimes people can and do sue and try to get an injunction until their case works through the court system but it's not free... You have to pay for such representation.

OK, so the first link is the about the lockout. It doesn't involve a suspension but rather a failure to agree between the union and the owners on the cba.

The second link is a good one though and is pretty much what I asked for. I find it a bit disturbing the feds have that power though but I can admit when I was wrong as well. Evidently union workers have a right to work in this country.

The last link actually is an an example that injunctions are also denied because in that case, Vilma's was denied in the early stages.

So, I will stand corrected that it is possible that an injunction could be granted but they are still taking a risk assuming a judge will grant one. I still can't beleive we waste federal courts time with these sort of things though.

 

[PatsFan2003]

OK, so the first link is the about the lockout. It doesn't involve a suspension but rather a failure to agree between the union and the owners on the cba.

The second link is a good one though and is pretty much what I asked for. I find it a bit disturbing the feds have that power though but I can admit when I was wrong as well. Evidently union workers have a right to work in this country.

The last link actually is an an example that injunctions are also denied because in that case, Vilma's was denied in the early stages.

So, I will stand corrected that it is possible that an injunction could be granted but they are still taking a risk assuming a judge will grant one. I still can't beleive we waste federal courts time with these sort of things though.

I'm saying it's a mechanism that's often used.

In these cases, it's more of a delay. If Brady goes to court and loses he has to do the suspension right away. If because of the schedule, it's now December, that's when he has to miss games. That could be bad for him and the Patriots.

So there is some risk.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Same to you man,

Court of public opinion should never weigh in your choices in life.

If that's the case, he shouldn't take it to federal court. The only reason he would, would be to try and salvage his legacy. The money is nothing to him. 1.8mil is chicken scratch to him and the misses.

Dude is correct when he talks about the court of public opinion. Regardless of the entire outcome, I read the texts and I can read between the lines. I have no doubt whatsoever he is guilty. No court ruling is going to make me change my mind. Lawyers will try and manipulate it, twist it around, etc. but any person with common sense knows TB is guilty.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

If that's the case, he shouldn't take it to federal court. The only reason he would, would be to try and salvage his legacy. The money is nothing to him. 1.8mil is chicken scratch to him and the misses.

Dude is correct when he talks about the court of public opinion. Regardless of the entire outcome, I read the texts and I can read between the lines. I have no doubt whatsoever he is guilty. No court ruling is going to make me change my mind. Lawyers will try and manipulate it, twist it around, etc. but any person with common sense knows TB is guilty.

Just like I feel. Winning in court is a hollow win. Not to say I think he could win in court, because I don't think that for a minute. Basically Brady can take this to court and maybe win, but folks will just feel those hot shot lawyers, allowed him to weasel out of his due punishment, on the flip side he could lose in court, even with all those big time lawyers and really look bad. Over what? A 4 game suspension? His rep is already shot, no court of law will save that.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Also, can you cite any evidence that in these type of situations it is granted every time? Again the issue is you have not right to a job, so I am not understanding how a federal court can reverse a suspension. What law or previous case has given the feds the right to tell an employer they can't suspend someone? This is socialism, not capitalism.

You're fogetting he is not an at will employee, is under a union contract, and this is a union related contractual dispute. He may file in a federal court, but he may also file with the NLRB. Because he will be harmed prior to the case being heard the injuction will be granted.

I'm saying it's a mechanism that's often used.

In these cases, it's more of a delay. If Brady goes to court and loses he has to do the suspension right away. If because of the schedule, it's now December, that's when he has to miss games. That could be bad for him and the Patriots.

So there is some risk.

If his legal team manuevers correctly they can get it held until after the season for a ruling.

 

[NEPatsfan]

If that's the case, he shouldn't take it to federal court. The only reason he would, would be to try and salvage his legacy. The money is nothing to him. 1.8mil is chicken scratch to him and the misses.

Dude is correct when he talks about the court of public opinion. Regardless of the entire outcome, I read the texts and I can read between the lines. I have no doubt whatsoever he is guilty. No court ruling is going to make me change my mind. Lawyers will try and manipulate it, twist it around, etc. but any person with common sense knows TB is guilty.

That wouldn't be a case of common sense, but a lack off.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Just like I feel. Winning in court is a hollow win. Not to say I think he could win in court, because I don't think that for a minute. Basically Brady can take this to court and maybe win, but folks will just feel those hot shot lawyers, allowed him to weasel out of his due punishment, on the flip side he could lose in court, even with all those big time lawyers and really look bad. Over what? A 4 game suspension? His rep is already shot, no court of law will save that.

His rep will be fine. The best part of all this, is how Brady will use it as fuel to win all season long, likely further cementing his place of greatness.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Just like I feel. Winning in court is a hollow win. Not to say I think he could win in court, because I don't think that for a minute. Basically Brady can take this to court and maybe win, but folks will just feel those hot shot lawyers, allowed him to weasel out of his due punishment, on the flip side he could lose in court, even with all those big time lawyers and really look bad. Over what? A 4 game suspension? His rep is already shot, no court of law will save that.

His rep is only tarnished to the haters that refuse to believe (if he's cleared). Good to see everyone starting to backpedal now and find excuses. Do you not think if this goes to court the NFL won't have a team of hot shot lawyers to counter? So that excuse doesn't hold water.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Sheesh I said that it depends some on what those texts say. Right now what we have is an article saying the NFLPA is the one who will pursue things. We don't even know if Brady completely wants this or not. I'm sure Brady has every understanding of what those texts say and if he thinks they won't be incriminating then yes I could see him going after this.

My point as well I'm quite confident his lawyers believe there is nothing there to incriminate him. Further, reports mentioned Brady may fight the fine?