Tom Brady Convicted Tom Brady.

[Thumper]

I was wondering why my knuckles are all scuffed, must be from dragging them along the ground ...

Another tip. You can breathe through your nose too.

Not just you mouth.


;-)

 

[Thumper]

I just find it funny when Jerry Rice said that Brady was a cheater that thread exploded. Everyone was saying "look the GOAT receiver said he is a cheat"

Now you have many actual QB's saying otherwise.

Colin Kaepernick defends Tom Brady on Twitter: Let it go and let Tom be great! | For The Win

Anyways I am off to work.

Cool. Don't be late.

 

[Thumper]

to save face brady should just man up , admit he cheated and accept his punishment .. thats the only way for him to get back all of the respect that he lost

Im a forgiver.

But the lying and cheating has to stop first.

Then an admission and apology.

Then I forgive.

 

[Fencer]

Im a forgiver.

But the lying and cheating has to stop first.

Then an admission and apology.

Then I forgive.

Kraft made that demand before the Super Bowl. So far the NFL hasn't complied.

 

[Thumper]

Kraft made that demand before the Super Bowl. So far the NFL hasn't complied.

You're funny.

 

[GenJac]

Kraft made that demand before the Super Bowl. So far the NFL hasn't complied.

How any reasonable person could possibly perceive any of this for anything other than what it is--Brady and his equipment managers doctoring footballs--is inane.

So, the rebuttal is that, there isn't anything actually illegal (numbers) discussed? This is true, however...

It's self-evident that when you COMBINE those communications WITH 11 of 12 balls under inflated for the AFCCG, Brady giving gifts to equipment managers, inconsistent testimony from McNally/Jastremski, Brady refusing to cooperate, a substantially lower fumble rate, etc., etc. it isn't difficult to come to the conclusion that Brady, and equipment managers took part in altering footballs that were outside the scope of the rules. While I won't argue it's circumstantial evidence, it's still enough to convince me that in all likelihood, Brady was knowledgeable and influential in the process. If there was damning evidence, Brady actually instructing his equipment managers to break the rules, then I believe a steeper punishment would be warranted.

Personally, I don't care what Brady did or didn't do and I am not entirely sure how significant the benefit would be in the grand scheme of things, anyway, but cheating is cheating.

 

[Fencer]

How any reasonable person could possibly perceive any of this for anything other than what it is--Brady and his equipment managers doctoring footballs--is inane.

So, the rebuttal is that, there isn't anything actually illegal (numbers) discussed? This is true, however...

It's self-evident that when you COMBINE those communications WITH 11 of 12 balls under inflated for the AFCCG, Brady giving gifts to equipment managers, inconsistent testimony from McNally/Jastremski, Brady refusing to cooperate, a substantially lower fumble rate, etc., etc. it isn't difficult to come to the conclusion that Brady, and equipment managers took part in altering footballs that were outside the scope of the rules. While I won't argue it's circumstantial evidence, it's still enough to convince me that in all likelihood, Brady was knowledgeable and influential in the process. If there was damning evidence, Brady actually instructing his equipment managers to break the rules, then I believe a steeper punishment would be warranted.

Personally, I don't care what Brady did or didn't do and I am not entirely sure how significant the benefit would be in the grand scheme of things, anyway, but cheating is cheating.

Gifts to the equipment managers? He'd be a douche of monumental proportions if he DIDN'T give gifts to the equipment managers!!!

 

[Fencer]

11 of 12 balls under inflated for the AFCCG,

To repeat -- the pressure of the balls is evidence AGAINST cheating. Make your case about shifty-seeming behavior all you want. But to deserve to be taken seriously, it has to be strong enough to OUTWEIGH the scientific evidence.

 

[Thumper]

Gifts to the equipment managers? He'd be a douche of monumental proportions if he DIDN'T give gifts to the equipment managers!!!

After they helped him cheat.

 

[Fencer]

After they helped him cheat.

He gave gifts to the equipment managers every Christmas (well, it says "holiday season", but with last names like theirs I presume they celebrate Christmas).

 

[Thumper]

He gave gifts to the equipment managers every Christmas (well, it says "holiday season", but with last names like theirs I presume they celebrate Christmas).

You are lying.

You lie in most of your posts.

You're either mentally ill or mentally retarded.

9 likes. Good for you!

 

[cwood]

To repeat -- the pressure of the balls is evidence AGAINST cheating. Make your case about shifty-seeming behavior all you want. But to deserve to be taken seriously, it has to be strong enough to OUTWEIGH the scientific evidence.

I know they have some crazy weather in New England but that's gotta be something else to only affect one sideline for only one half of a football game.

 

[Tainthappening]

So Brady is a cheater in more ways than one???

Apparently practice makes perfect

 

[Southieinnc]

They weren't asking him about that.

They asked Brady's lawyers to turn over the relevant texts and emails.

Like Hillary even did allegedly.

She turned over 55 K emails.

Didn't turn over 30 K emails.

The NFL only wanted info related to deflating balls.

Which Brady's lawyers could have provided. Same as Hillary's lawyers.

So you want Brady to act like Hillary? Now there's a good role model!

 

[cwood]

The rational side can look at the facts of the case without any moderation. The irrational side... it's kind of funny watching them try to spin things.

 

[Fencer]

to only affect one sideline

Nobody sane would claim that.

It's not Patriots sideline to Colts sideline. It's Patriots balls on the sideline vs. Colts balls indoors. (That's oversimplified, but so was your stupid remark.)

As for your bit about low pressure only happening the one time pressure was measured -- are you a 1-year-old who thinks your parents stop existing when you cover your eyes? If not, that part of your comment was stupider yet.

 

[Fencer]

You are lying.

So it is your strong position that Brady did NOT give holiday gifts to clubhouse personnel??

You're a fucking moron.

 

[GenJac]

So it was Walt Anderson's first time in 19 years he lost track of the footballs? So then, how did Brady know that this was going to be the first time? Just lucky I guess.

 

[cwood]

Nobody sane would claim that.

It's not Patriots sideline to Colts sideline. It's Patriots balls on the sideline vs. Colts balls indoors. (That's oversimplified, but so was your stupid remark.)

As for your bit about low pressure only happening the one time pressure was measured -- are you a 1-year-old who thinks your parents stop existing when you cover your eyes? If not, that part of your comment was stupider yet.

The Patriots' footballs deflated much more significantly than the Colts' in the first half. They did not deflate more significantly after halftime. So... yes this strange weather phenomenon did only affect one sideline and for only one half of football.

 

[GNG]

These Brady postings belong in the Penalty Box thread.