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Here's What Tom Brady Did For The Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Future of the QB Position

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Thought it would be interesting to dive into what Tom Brady actually did by coming to Tampa Bay. It's obvious that he won them a Super Bowl, but I thought it would be cool to dive deeper.

Yeah, we can talk about the big thing, the Super Bowl victory. But he also just set up what the future may look like for free agent QBs. Tom Brady didn't have to leave New England. His job wasn't in jeopardy. He wasn't retiring, wasn't forced out. He was still making the playoffs and winning division titles, so the team was obviously competitive and was also 2 years removed from winning a Super Bowl. It was a choice he made and it was the best choice he could've made. He also showed that it was indeed Tom Brady that made the Patriots the dynasty that they were, not Bill Belichick.

Picture this: It's 2022, the Seattle Seahawks have failed to win a Super Bowl and Russell Wilson takes advantage of free agency for the 2022 season. Who else from Seattle is a free agent come 2022? Tyler Lockett and Jamal Adams. Now when Tampa Bay signed Brady, along came Gronk, Fournette and Antonio Brown. Say a team who's looking for a QB signs Wilson. Along comes Lockett, Adams and maybe 1-2 other key pieces, and it's Tampa Bay all over again in another franchise. This thought process, it doesn't happen if Tom Brady and the Bucs don't partner up this year and win the Super Bowl.

Teams always look for the young QB in the draft, but Tampa Bay looked at the older, seasoned QB and it got them to the promise-land for the 2nd time. Not only did Brady bring history to the Bucs, but it may have just changed the way free agency is handled in the NFL. At least for the time being. Yeah, it could just be that it's Tom Brady and it didn't matter if the other guys signed with Tampa Bay or not, but I'm inclined to believe that this version of the Super Bowl doesn't happen if the other key pieces don't land in Tampa Bay with Brady.

With all that said, I'm interested to know if anyone else things that the way that the Bucs' season ended up, does it change the way that QBs handle Free Agency in the future? Does it change how entire teams handle free agency? Or, was this a fluke year for the Bucs? Maybe this was a one and done type deal. Let's discuss!
 

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Been already trending that way methinks. Brady is definitely the final nail in this coffin. Teams are gonna have to cater to their quality QBs or else from now on.
 

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Using Tom Brady as some example for others, nay! Obviously here is the exception to all the rules, that one in a billion.
So if it were Rodgers and not Brady, the Bucs don't win the Super Bowl?
 

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So if it were Rodgers and not Brady, the Bucs don't win the Super Bowl?

QB play isn't why the Buc's won that game. We saw a team in the Chiefs without an offensive line, game over.
 

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Thought it would be interesting to dive into what Tom Brady actually did by coming to Tampa Bay. It's obvious that he won them a Super Bowl, but I thought it would be cool to dive deeper.

Yeah, we can talk about the big thing, the Super Bowl victory. But he also just set up what the future may look like for free agent QBs. Tom Brady didn't have to leave New England. His job wasn't in jeopardy. He wasn't retiring, wasn't forced out. He was still making the playoffs and winning division titles, so the team was obviously competitive and was also 2 years removed from winning a Super Bowl. It was a choice he made and it was the best choice he could've made. He also showed that it was indeed Tom Brady that made the Patriots the dynasty that they were, not Bill Belichick.

Picture this: It's 2022, the Seattle Seahawks have failed to win a Super Bowl and Russell Wilson takes advantage of free agency for the 2022 season. Who else from Seattle is a free agent come 2022? Tyler Lockett and Jamal Adams. Now when Tampa Bay signed Brady, along came Gronk, Fournette and Antonio Brown. Say a team who's looking for a QB signs Wilson. Along comes Lockett, Adams and maybe 1-2 other key pieces, and it's Tampa Bay all over again in another franchise. This thought process, it doesn't happen if Tom Brady and the Bucs don't partner up this year and win the Super Bowl.

Teams always look for the young QB in the draft, but Tampa Bay looked at the older, seasoned QB and it got them to the promise-land for the 2nd time. Not only did Brady bring history to the Bucs, but it may have just changed the way free agency is handled in the NFL. At least for the time being. Yeah, it could just be that it's Tom Brady and it didn't matter if the other guys signed with Tampa Bay or not, but I'm inclined to believe that this version of the Super Bowl doesn't happen if the other key pieces don't land in Tampa Bay with Brady.

With all that said, I'm interested to know if anyone else things that the way that the Bucs' season ended up, does it change the way that QBs handle Free Agency in the future? Does it change how entire teams handle free agency? Or, was this a fluke year for the Bucs? Maybe this was a one and done type deal. Let's discuss!

C'mon, those key pieces that came were retired (Gronk), released (Fournette) and practically exiled (Brown). That's not exactly a repeatable scenario, especially with Brady deciding he wanted to prove himself away from Belichick. He was lucky that there was an up and coming team that needed a risk-averse veteran QB to lead them over the top, and they had enough cap space to boot.

Fluke.
 

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QB play isn't why the Buc's won that game. We saw a team in the Chiefs without an offensive line, game over.
Agreed. But that was one game. Do the Bucs make the playoffs with Rodgers? Do the Bucs make the Super Bowl with Rodgers. This isn't JUST about the Super Bowl. It's the whole season.
 

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Agreed. But that was one game. Do the Bucs make the playoffs with Rodgers? Do the Bucs make the Super Bowl with Rodgers. This isn't JUST about the Super Bowl. It's the whole season.
The Bucs make the playoffs with any QB who isn't completely terrible this year. The roster was a lot better than people thought it was.
 

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Agreed. But that was one game. Do the Bucs make the playoffs with Rodgers? Do the Bucs make the Super Bowl with Rodgers. This isn't JUST about the Super Bowl. It's the whole season.
Well if we have to use Aaron Rodgers as the one example to trump Brady what does that tell us?
 

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...Yeah, we can talk about the big thing, the Super Bowl victory. But he also just set up what the future may look like for free agent QBs. Tom Brady didn't have to leave New England. His job wasn't in jeopardy. He wasn't retiring, wasn't forced out. He was still making the playoffs and winning division titles, so the team was obviously competitive and was also 2 years removed from winning a Super Bowl. It was a choice he made and it was the best choice he could've made. He also showed that it was indeed Tom Brady that made the Patriots the dynasty that they were, not Bill Belichick...
The Patriots wouldn't have been competitive with Brady. Clearly they would have had to pay Brady more than they actually paid Newton. If they weren't willing to use more cap resources from future years then obviously they would have had less talent around Brady than they had around Newton. That wouldn't have turned a 7-win team into an 11-win team. Brady might have been more important than Belichick. Belichick might have been more important than Brady. Either side could make a case but to say it's conclusive is just wrong. Belichick might have won the Super Bowl this year if he had been HC in Tampa and Brady had stayed with the Patriots.
 

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Agreed. But that was one game. Do the Bucs make the playoffs with Rodgers? Do the Bucs make the Super Bowl with Rodgers. This isn't JUST about the Super Bowl. It's the whole season.

Yes

the last time Rodgers won a football game because of his defense, he was in high school
 

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The Bucs make the playoffs with any QB who isn't completely terrible this year. The roster was a lot better than people thought it was.

Yup, not a lot better than Tom Brady thought

amazing people don’t connect the dots there
 

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Well if we have to use Aaron Rodgers as the one example to trump Brady what does that tell us?
Drew Brees. Russell Wilson. There's two more.
 

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The Patriots wouldn't have been competitive with Brady. Clearly they would have had to pay Brady more than they actually paid Newton. If they weren't willing to use more cap resources from future years then obviously they would have had less talent around Brady than they had around Newton. That wouldn't have turned a 7-win team into an 11-win team. Brady might have been more important than Belichick. Belichick might have been more important than Brady. Either side could make a case but to say it's conclusive is just wrong. Belichick might have won the Super Bowl this year if he had been HC in Tampa and Brady had stayed with the Patriots.
11 win team? No. But a playoff team, yes.
 

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The QB position is actually trending away from Tom Brady. Teams want the tall QB with the big arm and the ability to scramble. Guys only get to be like Tom Brady is if they have that killer mentality that makes them like a robot on the field. You can't scout that or reliably find that or develop that.

We've seen the modern pro-type. Mahomes. Josh Allen. Justin Herbert. Trevor Lawrence. Zach Wilson? Trey Lance?

These guys are going to be expected to extend plays and throw deep and they are going to get hit a lot. These guys aren't going to last as long as Tom Brady.

The two guys who are really setting the new trend are Matt Stafford and Deshaun Watson. I'm about 90% sure the Chiefs will draft an offensive player in rd1 this year. Why? Keep Mahomes happy. I suspect most GMs in the NFL are thinking in a similar fashion.
 

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The Patriots wouldn't have been competitive with Brady. Clearly they would have had to pay Brady more than they actually paid Newton. If they weren't willing to use more cap resources from future years then obviously they would have had less talent around Brady than they had around Newton. That wouldn't have turned a 7-win team into an 11-win team. Brady might have been more important than Belichick. Belichick might have been more important than Brady. Either side could make a case but to say it's conclusive is just wrong. Belichick might have won the Super Bowl this year if he had been HC in Tampa and Brady had stayed with the Patriots.

11 win team? No. But a playoff team, yes.
Actually, I just went through their schedule. They can 100% be an 11 win team. Here's how I see their schedule if Brady was the QB

Miami - W
Seattle - L
Raiders - W
Chiefs - W
Broncos - W
49ers - W
Bills - L
Jets - W
Ravens - W
Texans - W
Cardinals - W
Chargers - W
Rams - W
Dolphins - L
Bills - L
Jets - W

They are a 12-4 team and a 5 seed in the AFC playoffs. They would have faced Tennessee again and would've lost in the first round because that defense was just straight trash this year and Derrick Henry would run all over that field.
 

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Actually, I just went through their schedule. They can 100% be an 11 win team. Here's how I see their schedule if Brady was the QB

Miami - W
Seattle - L
Raiders - W
Chiefs - W
Broncos - W
49ers - W
Bills - L
Jets - W
Ravens - W
Texans - W
Cardinals - W
Chargers - W
Rams - W
Dolphins - L
Bills - L
Jets - W

They are a 12-4 team and a 5 seed in the AFC playoffs. They would have faced Tennessee again and would've lost in the first round because that defense was just straight trash this year and Derrick Henry would run all over that field.
You're going to overturn their 24-3 loss to the Rams and their 33-6 loss to the 49ers?
 

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Yes

the last time Rodgers won a football game because of his defense, he was in high school
GB was pretty good picking off Wilson 4 times, all in Seattle territory in the NFCG and held the Seahawks to 0 points in first half. Need to throw tds when you get gifts and not settle for field goals.

Amazing people don't connect the dots here
 
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