tOfficial "2014 LeBron James" Superthread

[gohusk]

Him and Bosh are in a weird place. Bosh must love it in Miami because as far as his career and legacy goes Houston is a no-brainer. He's exactly what they need and he'd be able to showcase his entire game (if it's still there) playing for the Rockets. He was never a great inside player but he was more than the taller version of Rashard Lewis that the Heat turned him into. It just seems like James is waiting for what Bosh is going to do and Bosh is doing the same with James.

 

[gohusk]

But the thing that people are missing is what his kids think. I think he's an arrogant jerk but he does seem like he's a good dad to them and their input will probably factor in. When he went to Miami they were too young to give a crap. They're a little older now and sending them to a new school in a new city would be a bit of a shock. Fans have a lot emotionally invested in this crap but at the end of the day it's his job and he's going to factor in some of the same things that any one of us would when thinking about a job change. Money isn't a factor because wherever he goes he's going to get the same play with the caps on salary.

 

[bksballer89]

If he goes back to Miami, he will look like an inconsiderate asshole to many also. He can't win here.

No the only reason I said that is because it will look like Sheridan was right. If he goes back to Cleveland as Sheridan predicted, it means his decision should've been made by Monday. If he goes back to CLeveland, it would seem like he turned this intentionally into a circus.

If he goes back to Miami, I will actually think he had a last minute change of heart as Cleveland is obviously the heavy favorites.

Going back to Cleveland (thanks to Sheridan) will make him look real inconsiderate to the Miami Heat to keep them in limbo like this.

 

[TDs3nOut]

If he goes back to Miami, he will look like an inconsiderate asshole to many also. He can't win here.

I don't get that. Seems to me that returning to Cleveland makes him look as if he's trying to redeem himself for how he left. Other than Miami fans, I think most fans would find him much more likeable than if he goes anywhere else.

 

[bksballer89]

Sheridan made this a lose-lose situation for LBJ.

1) If he choose Cleveland as I stated above it will look like he already knew this since Sunday night/Monday morning and just kept this going to make this all about him and to drag it out longer than it should be so he can make it seem like he actually had a tough decision.

2) If he goes to Miami it will be like 2010 all over for Cleveland thanks to Sheridan stating it is a lock and that his decision has been made already. They'll feel like he back stabbed them yet again

 

[gohusk]

Sheridan made this a lose-lose situation for LBJ.

1) If he choose Cleveland as I stated above it will look like he already knew this since Sunday night/Monday morning and just kept this going to make this all about him and to drag it out longer than it should be so he can make it seem like he actually had a tough decision.

2) If he goes to Miami it will be like 2010 all over for Cleveland thanks to Sheridan stating it is a lock and that his decision has been made already. They'll feel like he back stabbed them yet again

Or maybe he's actually on the fence and people in his inner circle have different opinions about where he should go. People just want an answer now because the season is over and there's nothing really interesting to talk about besides this.

 

[tlance]

Sheridan made this a lose-lose situation for LBJ.

1) If he choose Cleveland as I stated above it will look like he already knew this since Sunday night/Monday morning and just kept this going to make this all about him and to drag it out longer than it should be so he can make it seem like he actually had a tough decision.

2) If he goes to Miami it will be like 2010 all over for Cleveland thanks to Sheridan stating it is a lock and that his decision has been made already. They'll feel like he back stabbed them yet again

There are a lot of assumptions here though.

Sheridan may be 100% wrong. I would not be surprised if LeBron legitimately has not made up his mind as of right now. I am sure he is leaning one way or another, but just because Sheridan reported it does not make it the goespel truth.

In fact, LeBron might have been sure he was going to Cleveland on Sunday and is unsure now.

 

[bksballer89]

There are a lot of assumptions here though.

Sheridan may be 100% wrong. I would not be surprised if LeBron legitimately has not made up his mind as of right now. I am sure he is leaning one way or another, but just because Sheridan reported it does not make it the goespel truth.

In fact, LeBron might have been sure he was going to Cleveland on Sunday and is unsure now.

I agree with this but once he goes to Cleveland everyone including myself would assume that Sheridan was right and nobody would ever have a way to prove this to be false. As I said before Sheridan put him in a lose-lose situation

 

[trojanfan12]

Yes, he's being inconsiderate. As I pointed out on another thread. I get that it's a huge decision that involves millions of dollars and effects family, friends, teammates, business partners, coaches, fans, etc. That's a huge weight to carry.


However, all of those people that it effects are why what he's doing is inconsiderate. There are teammates and free agents around the league who also have millions at stake and no, they aren't all choosing to wait. There are 2 teams waiting to get him and other teams whose moves will be effected by where he goes.


Also, as for the media and hysterical fans driving this. Yes, that's correct. But does anyone honestly think that he didn't know that this is exactly what was going to happen? He not only knew this is what would happen, but he even opted out almost a week before anyone else.


When all of this first started, I actually defended him to Heat fans who were saying that he was just being an attention whore. I stand corrected because, at this point, it looks like they are right.


I'm not even saying that he should make his decision right now. But he should have the courtesy to at least give a time frame. He at least owes that much to his teammates/potential teammates and other FA's.


As Heatles would say: *drops mic*

 

[OutlawImmortal]

They do it in the NHL all the time. Only in the NBA do you see this kind of drama drag out.

NHL is much more team oriented. Star power goes a long way in the NBA.

 

[gohusk]

Yes, he's being inconsiderate. As I pointed out on another thread. I get that it's a huge decision that involves millions of dollars and effects family, friends, teammates, business partners, coaches, fans, etc. That's a huge weight to carry.


However, all of those people that it effects are why what he's doing is inconsiderate. There are teammates and free agents around the league who also have millions at stake and no, they aren't all choosing to wait because there are some teams that are 2 teams waiting to get him and other teams whose moves will be effected by where he goes.


Also, as for the media and hysterical fans driving this. Yes, that's correct. But does anyone honestly think that he didn't know that this is exactly what was going to happen? He not only knew this is what would happen, but he even opted out almost a week before anyone else.


When all of this first started, I actually defended him to Heat fans who were saying that he was just being an attention whore. I stand corrected because, at this point, it looks like they are right.


I'm not even saying that he should make his decision right now. But he should have the courtesy to at least give a time frame. He at least owes that much to his teammates/potential teammates and other FA's.


As Heatles would say: *drops mic*

It's the NBA, not some communist community. Maybe everyone else should strap on a pair and make up their minds about what they want to do instead of wait on what another free agent does or doesn't do.

 

[Logicallylethal]

Or maybe he's actually on the fence and people in his inner circle have different opinions about where he should go. People just want an answer now because the season is over and there's nothing really interesting to talk about besides this.

Yeah I wouldn't put much stake into the article that Sheridan wrote or any article that anyone is writing at this point. His inner circle may know where Lebron is leaning, but I don't think anyone knows what his final decision will be except Lebron.

I find it funny, because in 2010 Lebron was open about his decision and he got scrutinized for it. This time around he's been low key and basically been in hibernation...and he's still getting scrutinized for it.

It's always been a lose lose for Lebron no matter the outcome.


I guess the one outcome that would've caused the least controversy would've been all 3 bron wade and bosh opt out and immediately signed friendly contracts on the first day of free agency. But that's more wishful thinking on my end than something that could have been a realistic option.

 

[tlance]

Yes, he's being inconsiderate. As I pointed out on another thread. I get that it's a huge decision that involves millions of dollars and effects family, friends, teammates, business partners, coaches, fans, etc. That's a huge weight to carry.


However, all of those people that it effects are why what he's doing is inconsiderate. There are teammates and free agents around the league who also have millions at stake and no, they aren't all choosing to wait. There are 2 teams waiting to get him and other teams whose moves will be effected by where he goes.


Also, as for the media and hysterical fans driving this. Yes, that's correct. But does anyone honestly think that he didn't know that this is exactly what was going to happen? He not only knew this is what would happen, but he even opted out almost a week before anyone else.


When all of this first started, I actually defended him to Heat fans who were saying that he was just being an attention whore. I stand corrected because, at this point, it looks like they are right.


I'm not even saying that he should make his decision right now. But he should have the courtesy to at least give a time frame. He at least owes that much to his teammates/potential teammates and other FA's.


As Heatles would say: *drops mic*

You are correct in everything that you say, but that is not his fault. He should not have to rush his decision because others are waiting.

He may not be able to give a timeline because he may not know. I would imagine that the decision will be made by the time he laves for Brazil, and really that is what Windhorst has been saying from day 1.

 

[trojanfan12]

It's the NBA, not some communist community. Maybe everyone else should strap on a pair and make up their minds about what they want to do instead of wait on what another free agent does or doesn't do.

Apparently you missed the part about there being teams that aren't making moves until they know what he's going to do. You can't go to a team that isn't making any moves yet.

 

[trojanfight]

Think he should have been meeting with teams and all this on July 1st like every other player in the league that's a free agent. I mean do they need a signing day like college recruits?

 

[trojanfan12]

You are correct in everything that you say, but that is not his fault. He should not have to rush his decision because others are waiting.

He may not be able to give a timeline because he may not know. I would imagine that the decision will be made by the time he laves for Brazil, and really that is what Windhorst has been saying from day 1.

I never said he should rush his decision. In fact, I said that I'm not even saying he should make his decision right now.

I'm saying that he should at least give some kind of time frame. He owes the other FA's, especially Wade and Bosh, that much. It would also calm everyone down a bit as well. The only reason that I can think of for him not, at least giving a timeframe, is that he is enjoying all of this.

 

[gohusk]

Yeah I wouldn't put much stake into the article that Sheridan wrote or any article that anyone is writing at this point. His inner circle may know where Lebron is leaning, but I don't think anyone knows what his final decision will be except Lebron.

I find it funny, because in 2010 Lebron was open about his decision and he got scrutinized for it. This time around he's been low key and basically been in hibernation...and he's still getting scrutinized for it.

It's always been a lose lose for Lebron no matter the outcome.


I guess the one outcome that would've caused the least controversy would've been all 3 bron wade and bosh opt out and immediately signed friendly contracts on the first day of free agency. But that's more wishful thinking on my end than something that could have been a realistic option.

Yeah, it was damned if you do, damned if you don't for him. It's not like we're late in this process either. Everyone is just waiting because he's the best player in the league who's going to command a max deal when he signs. People are getting pissed because he's taking longer than a week or two over a 100 million+ dollar decision, which is ridiculous. And now you have the bloated web media willing to print any rumor from anyone because they know people will click on the link.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah, it was damned if you do, damned if you don't for him. It's not like we're late in this process either. Everyone is just waiting because he's the best player in the league who's going to command a max deal when he signs. People are getting pissed because he's taking longer than a week or two over a 100 million+ dollar decision, which is ridiculous. And now you have the bloated web media willing to print any rumor from anyone because they know people will click on the link.

Which is exactly what he knew would happen. He could calm much of this down by simply giving a timeframe, yet he doesn't.


I do agree though, that as soon as he narrowed it to Heat/Cavs, he was in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

 

[gohusk]

Apparently you missed the part about there being teams that aren't making moves until they know what he's going to do. You can't go to a team that isn't making any moves yet.

How did I miss that part? Why should James really give a crap that some team he has no interest in signing with and will be competing against next year is having a hard time because he's considering his options? If he's actively colluding with the team he's going to eventually sign with to make things more complicated then that's another story entirely. But what's out there is that he's opted out and weighing his options. If the Rockets, Bulls, Knicks, or whoever else can't make a decision because they're waiting to see what James does is that really his problem? He's basically unemployed right now.

 

[gohusk]

Which is exactly what he knew would happen. He could calm much of this down by simply giving a timeframe, yet he doesn't.

Where in the CBA does it say that a player needs to give a time frame for when they're going to sign?