To the LeBron haters

[Black Adam]

i'm wondering why LeClown SHOULD "get a pass"...?

would anyone else...?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

i'm wondering why LeClown SHOULD "get a pass"...?

would anyone else...?

Apparently according to some posters, it was because the other teams were better

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

What shit? This is probably the most civilised conversation i've had on these boards in a long time.

Exactly my point.

We are all debating without the drama.

You know what you are talking about, you didn't need his help.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Nobody gets a pass for losing in the finals.

If we're going back to the "West is clearly the stronger conference" debate, we can argue that the only reason lebron made it to that many finals is because of a ridiculously weaker East. We've already been there.

...and that's a fair point.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

i'm wondering why LeClown SHOULD "get a pass"...?

would anyone else...?

He doesn't get one from me.

It's the reason he can never be top 2.

Unless he is clearly better than the guy ahead of him, or his ring count is higher.....penalty...lol

 

[Black Adam]

...and that's a fair point.

i mean everyone who's ever been great is always gonna get compared to other greats, but until LeClown i've never heard anyone say "let's not use ring count in the conversation"...

makes no sense to me...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

And LeBron will get a pass for losing to the Warriors multiple times and the Spurs twice. As he should. They were better teams the years they beat him.

....a pass?

When comparing him to Bird, Dr. J, Duncan and Shaq, yes.

Because he is clearly a better player than those guys.

Jordan, KAJ...for some, Magic?

No, I'm sorry.

If he's not unequivocally better, rings are MY deciding factor.

Duncan and Malone are prime examples.

Timmy gets the nod based on jewelry.

Your criteria might be different.

 

[SJ76]

And LeBron will get a pass for losing to the Warriors multiple times and the Spurs twice. As he should. They were better teams the years they beat him.

Come On. How much can you possibly ride the nuts of today's NBA??

A Pass? Seriously

 

[Black Adam]

Come On. How much can you possibly ride the nuts of today's NBA??

A Pass? Seriously

didn't wanna say it like that...

won't lie and say it didn't cross my mind, though...

 

[tlance]

....a pass?

When comparing him to Bird, Dr. J, Duncan and Shaq, yes.

Because he is clearly a better player than those guys.

Jordan, KAJ...for some, Magic?

No, I'm sorry.

If he's not unequivocally better, rings are MY deciding factor.

Duncan and Malone are prime examples.

Timmy gets the nod based on jewelry.

Your criteria might be different.

People are literally saying the losses stain his resume. If he were 3-0 in Finals his resume would be less impressive, not more. It is a ridiculous thing to even debate.

The only thing that really matters when comparing LeBron to MJ is the number on the left. The 3 vs. the 6. Finals losses don't mean jack because they all lost.

I am not saying LeBron is better than MJ, I don't rank him that way. But criticizing him for losing to arguably the greatest team ever assembled is just plain stupid. Some on here are doing that.

 

[msgkings322]

One could argue that if MJ hadn't retired the first time, he'd be 8-0

And if my aunt had balls she's be my uncle. If the Cavs weren't so injured in 2015 maybe "LeBron" is 4-4

 

[Black Adam]

And if my aunt had balls she's be my uncle. If the Cavs weren't so injured in 2015 maybe "LeBron" is 4-4

or 2-8 if the Dubs didn't blow a 3-1 lead and hurting themselves...

 

[Black Adam]

coulda, shoulda, woulda...

bottom line is he's 3-5 and the ring count WILL come up in conversation...

 

[msgkings322]

or 2-8 if the Dubs didn't blow a 3-1 lead and hurting themselves...

Exactly so all the 'If Jordan this' and 'If LeBron that' stuff is pointless

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

People are literally saying the losses stain his resume. If he were 3-0 in Finals his resume would be less impressive, not more. It is a ridiculous thing to even debate.

The only thing that really matters when comparing LeBron to MJ is the number on the left. The 3 vs. the 6. Finals losses don't mean jack because they all lost.

I am not saying LeBron is better than MJ, I don't rank him that way. But criticizing him for losing to arguably the greatest team ever assembled is just plain stupid. Some on here are doing that.

3-0 is less impressive than 3-5?!?

Come on now, even you can't believe that!

 

[msgkings322]

3-0 is less impressive than 3-5?!?

Come on now, even you can't believe that!

Why not, it's true

 

[True Lakers Fan]

And if my aunt had balls she's be my uncle. If the Cavs weren't so injured in 2015 maybe "LeBron" is 4-4

I understand that IF's don't count, but I think a lot people including me believes that if that team had remained intact longer that they would have won more championships. Michael didn't have to jump from team to team to win his either.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Why not, it's true

So a 38% win record is better than a 100% win record?

 

[msgkings322]

So a 38% win record is better than a 100% win record?

No, 8 is more than double 3 is it not?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

No, 8 is more than double 3 is it not?

3 wins out of 8 attempts is 38% (37.5% if you want to be picky)

So is 38% better than 100%?