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list the number of teams with a higher percentage against top 25 defenses in the same 5 years.


Why? My argument is that Oregons offense drops off when facing a real D and they become vulnerable.

What you've posted proves my point.
 

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Stanford has had a real D for 5 years and Oregon has OWNED us for 3 of 5. Stanford has to win more than lose to Oregon for the next 4 years for me to feel good about that game on the schedule every year. STFD Iron Breaker, even the PAC knows we have to beat the best to be the best each year.

Stanford has not had a "real D" for 5 years. #20 last season, #26 in 11, #21 in 10, #90 in 09, #75 in 08
 

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Cool IB 2 week AVI bet for the LSJU v Puppies game in two weeks. Mambe gets to decide the avi?


You're assuming I am picking the Huskies to win that game for some reason.
 

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Why? My argument is that Oregons offense drops off when facing a real D and they become vulnerable.

What you've posted proves my point.

Not really but believe what you will.
My reason for asking is because you claim that the win % against top 25 defenses is bad so show me how many teams have a better win % against top defenses to say that Oregons is in fact bad
 

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Cool IB 2 week AVI bet for the LSJU v Puppies game in two weeks. Mambe gets to decide the avi?

You can't ask for a 2 week avi bet with the Oregon game coming the next week. You just can't.
 

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Stanford has not had a "real D" for 5 years. #20 last season, #26 in 11, #21 in 10, #90 in 09, #75 in 08
OD My point is Oregon has Pwnd my beloved Cardinal for 5 years. If we include last year which you omitted then my argument stands overall. As a fan of a team that lost to the puppies last year (fing Nunes), I still say until Stanford or UW can beat Oregon consistently, Oregon's O can run it up on 95% of the best defenses they play. does that clarify it?
 

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You can't ask for a 2 week avi bet with the Oregon game coming the next week. You just can't.
Protects me, as the only Stanford Homer here, from making one for that week. Logic or madness WH?
 

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Not really but believe what you will.
My reason for asking is because you claim that the win % against top 25 defenses is bad so show me how many teams have a better win % against top defenses to say that Oregons is in fact bad

I claimed 64% was bad? Really?

All I ever inferred was when facing teams with a real D Oregon isn't a juggernaut, and this year will prove to be the same. What you've already posted proves that to be true in part, the rest remains to be seen.

If you want to believe that real Ds have no effect on your win % go ahead. But I think they do, and a pretty substantial one at that.
 

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Protects me, as the only Stanford Homer here, from making one for that week. Logic or madness WH?

Point is these multi week bet requests are ghey. There are other games in the season and no one wants to be tied to one outcome that prevents them from having a bet in the next game. It totally ignores the spirit of such bets. I wouldn't have taken a multi week bet on Idaho State. IB is free to do what he wants, but all these silly requests for weeks or months is just :lame:
 

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Why? My argument is that Oregons offense drops off when facing a real D and they become vulnerable.

What you've posted proves my point.

But I will go on.
Wisc finished the 2011 season with the #15 defense and Oregon scored 45 points had 621 yards
Only 2 games that season did Oregon finish with more yards, Montana State and Oregon State.
cal was another top 25 D that season and Oregon scored 43 points on 563 yards
and LSU the #2 D in the country Oregon put up 335 yards and 27 points. this was Oregons low for the year. but not by much. there were 2 other games within about 50 yards difference
 

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Point is these multi week bet requests are ghey. There are other games in the season and no one wants to be tied to one outcome that prevents them from having a bet in the next game. It totally ignores the spirit of such bets. I wouldn't have taken a multi week bet on Idaho State. IB is free to do what he wants, but all these silly requests for weeks or months is just :lame:
My bad, can I claim the I am new here defense? So make it one week.
 

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California @ OREGON -36 1/2

SOCAL @ Arizona State - 6 1/2

Colorado @ OREGON STATE -10 1/2

Stanford @ WASHINGTON STATE +10 1/2

Game of the Week

Arizona @ WASHINGTON -8 1/2

Pick final Score:

UW 38 Wildcats 20
:suds::whistle:
 

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You can't ask for a 2 week avi bet with the Oregon game coming the next week. You just can't.

Point is these multi week bet requests are ghey. There are other games in the season and no one wants to be tied to one outcome that prevents them from having a bet in the next game. It totally ignores the spirit of such bets. I wouldn't have taken a multi week bet on Idaho State. IB is free to do what he wants, but all these silly requests for weeks or months is just :lame:

:stfu:
 

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But I will go on.
Wisc finished the 2011 season with the #15 defense and Oregon scored 45 points had 621 yards
Only 2 games that season did Oregon finish with more yards, Montana State and Oregon State.
cal was another top 25 D that season and Oregon scored 43 points on 563 yards
and LSU the #2 D in the country Oregon put up 335 yards and 27 points. this was Oregons low for the year. but not by much. there were 2 other games within about 50 yards difference

...and they lost to LSU.

So then if you believe the D had no effect on these games, then why did you lose 36% of the ones you talked of earlier?

You lose 36% of the time when facing top 50 defenses, or was it top 25? You made mention of both.

How do the ducks do when facing top 10 defenses during their little streak?



I want to know the secret to beating Oregon if it's not good D.

Is it magic?
 

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I like it.

One week avi bet.

Stanford vs Washington

SUBudda vs IronBreaker.

Mamba decides avi

Sign here.

Where is yourn balls IB?
 

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yeah, because telling me to shut up has ever worked before. IB isn't dumb enough to get goaded into a dumb bet in the first place.
 

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Just think if OSU went to 4 straight BCS Bowls (soon to be 5), 3 BCS Bowl wins in the era, are on ESPN constantly, Are the #2 team in the Nation (many think the best), Beat us 9 straight soon to be 10 in dominant fashion... And we have an 0-12 season and have been a bottom tier team nationally for 12 years.

That is what Washington is dealing with:omg:

Thank God we will never have to live through this as Oregon State will always be lil brother. But could you imagine?

Poor Poor Huskies.

SOUNDZ LIKE...chest thumping, to much drinky, wrong on about everything stated above and over-dosed on to much of Uncle Phills green stuff jammed down the gullet. God I love the TRUTH!:laugh3:
 

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I like it.

One week avi bet.

Stanford vs Washington

SUBudda vs IronBreaker.

Mamba decides avi

Sign here.

Where is yourn balls IB?


I'll make my own avi bets. Did I all of a sudden go crazy and talk shit about beating Stanfords ass or something?

Some kid calls me out and tells me to stfu because I said Oregon has trouble with top D's and wants an avi bet with me vs Stanford?

:wtf2:


:laugh3:
 

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I like it.

One week avi bet.

Stanford vs Washington

SUBudda vs IronBreaker.

Mamba decides avi

Sign here.

Where is yourn balls IB?
You really expect someone to make a bet against a poster that is new here? You know, one that will simply not post here over the week and not care that everyone will frown on them for it? :L

How dumb do you take him for?
 
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