Texas Rangers vs. Houston Astros 8/9-8/12

[jta4437]

Greinke wishes he was as good as kershaw.

They all wish they were as good as kershaw right now

 

[Hambombs]

They all wish they were as good as kershaw right now

#Kershaw Ranger 2014

 

[romeo212000]

They all wish they were as good as kershaw right now

Think there's any chance Texas gets a shot at kershaw in FA? And if so, do they back up the truck considering the current state of their pitching?

 

[donaldson79]

Grenkie hasn't been as talented as them. Also Darvish is already there iMO has the potential to be even better. That's what's scary

Darvish can be the king! Seriously, he's that talented. We agree.

But you're wrong on Grienke! Since 2009 he's 82-41! That's in the elitist category to me! But that said, I'm happy we didn't get him. He reminds me, at least a little, of another departed starter now located in CA. I believe his name his CJ - insert vanity here - Wilson!

 

[romeo212000]

Darvish can be the king! Seriously, he's that talented. We agree.

But you're wrong on Grienke! Since 2009 he's 82-41! That's in the elitist category to me! But that said, I'm happy we didn't get him. He reminds me, at least a little, of another departed starter now located in CA. I believe his name his CJ - insert vanity here - Wilson!

Pitching records are meaningless.

 

[Hambombs]

Think there's any chance Texas gets a shot at kershaw in FA? And if so, do they back up the truck considering the current state of their pitching?

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[donaldson79]

Greinke wishes he was as good as kershaw.

Since 2009: Grienke is 82-41, Kershaw is 66-39, and Darvish (in his 1 1/2 season) is 27-14.

Darvish has the "opportunity" to pass both of these guys in the next 2 seasons in winning percentage for sure! That's all I'm saying.

 

[Sexy]

Since 2009: Grienke is 82-41, Kershaw is 66-39, and Darvish (in his 1 1/2 season) is 27-14.

Darvish has the "opportunity" to pass both of these guys in the next 2 seasons in winning percentage for sure! That's all I'm saying.

As Romeo said, winning percentage is meaningless.
I'd rather take a look at stats that actually determine how good a pitcher is.

 

[donaldson79]

As Romeo said. Winning percentage is meaningless.
I'd rather take a look at stats that actually determine how good a pitcher is.

it is not the end all to be all! But it is far from "meaningless." It is definitely not a throw-away stat, which you're suggesting. At least to me. After all guys, at the end of the day, there are really on 2 real stats, wins and losses!

 

[romeo212000]

Since 2009: Grienke is 82-41, Kershaw is 66-39, and Darvish (in his 1 1/2 season) is 27-14.

Darvish has the "opportunity" to pass both of these guys in the next 2 seasons in winning percentage for sure! That's all I'm saying.

Again. Pitching records are meaningless.

 

[romeo212000]

it is not the end all to be all! But it is far from "meaningless." It is definitely not a throw-away stat, which you're suggesting. At least to me. After all guys, at the end of the day, there are really on 2 real stats, wins and losses!

No, it really is pretty much meaningless. Pitching wins are very much a stat of luck.

 

[Sexy]

it is not the end all to be all! But it is far from "meaningless." It is definitely not a throw-away stat, which you're suggesting. At least to me. After all guys, at the end of the day, there are really on 2 real stats, wins and losses!

It is meaningless in terms of determining how good a pitcher is. Whether or not his team wins on the night he pitches does not represent how well he pitches.

 

[romeo212000]

It is meaningless in terms of determining how good a pitcher is. Whether or not his team wins on the night he pitches does not represent how well he pitches.

Exactly. It's a stat of luck.

 

[darrylgann]

Again. Pitching records are meaningless.

Just ask Felix. Heck, just ask Nolan.

 

[jta4437]

Think there's any chance Texas gets a shot at kershaw in FA? And if so, do they back up the truck considering the current state of their pitching?

Not really, no way Dodgers don't lock him up long term before he hits free agency

 

[Hambombs]

Not really, no way Dodgers don't lock him up long term before he hits free agency

I mean there is a shot if he hits free agency but probably 5%

 

[WTXRangerFan]

I do think he has at least one 300 strike out season.

It could be this year, went conservative with 269 because he has gone low as 5 (?), and he might get skipped to save him for playoffs & we still have to play some over .500 teams. But he has rocked some good teams. Like a true ace, he gets up for big games. Strikeouts are gravy, wins are steak.

 

[RevSader]

Teams win and lose. Individuals make up those teams. Harold Reynolds saying that Max knows how to win cause his record is 17-1 is stupid. He pitches just as well as he does all the time, and it's an independent variable in the end. How well he pitches doesn't make the offense play better.

 

[romeo212000]

Teams win and lose. Individuals make up those teams. Harold Reynolds saying that Max knows how to win cause his record is 17-1 is stupid. He pitches just as well as he does all the time, and it's an independent variable in the end. How well he pitches doesn't make the offense play better.

To put it simply, Harold Reynolds is stupid.

 

[WTXRangerFan]

Teams win and lose. Individuals make up those teams. Harold Reynolds saying that Max knows how to win cause his record is 17-1 is stupid. He pitches just as well as he does all the time, and it's an independent variable in the end. How well he pitches doesn't make the offense play better.

Or defense better. I like our odds now with a jelling defensive team. Not totally locked down cold cuz uh games like last night, but heck that's baseball. Liked defensive support today for Perez.