Stafford will be allowed to open things up

[broncosmitty]

Staff supporters shouldn't take it as a knock that I find Numba Nine comparable to The RyGuy. I think the RyGuy is good and getting better.

Take solace in that my friends.

 

[RobBase]

How many wins does CJ have over winning/playoff teams? The point is it doesn't take any one guy to win or lose. Those wins and losses were credited to the team. People want to single out one player to discredit his ability.

How many times has Levy or Slay or Reiff or Stafford or anyone else on this team ever been considered the best at their position other than Suh and Calvin?

How many Superbowls do you think most other teams would have in 5 years of both these guys were on these team?

I can use the same argument for Calvin. Mayhew has out no one else around him (until Tate), just like he's put no one sound Suh on defense.

 

[RobBase]

I think Staff has more natural ability. But I think RT clearly is more of a student of the game and a harder worker. Still too early to saw who is better. And Im serious aboot that. But I think they're very close in QB power rankings. Both in the middle third of NFL starters...

Joey Harrington would have had more yards per pass/completion than most QBs if he had CJ to chuck it up there to 500 style.

I've seen Tannehill improve in his first 3 years while (aside from week 1 vs the Giants), stafford looks like the same guy since his rookie year.

 

[gandydancer]

Suh was never the problem. Led all DTs in all major categories since 2010. Not his fault no one good was around him for most of it.

He makes other people better, right? Did you not also say Fairley was awesome? He truly did not impress me while playing next to a football god. Fairley has incredible stats in St Loius actually looks bad against Suh, as maybe Aaron Donald does really make him better.

So who is to say that Digs, Quin, Slay, Mathis, Levy and Ansah made Suh look better also. As Suh alone can not create a #2 defense when nobody was around him. Last year when really good talent was around suddenly a DC knew how to make 11 guys work together and not just around Suh.

 

[lionstop1]

This is all based on personal opinion but Stafford is better. While I like RT, there's nothing about him that sets him apart from a average QB. Yeah, we can talk about wins and all that crap too, but Staff is still better.

 

[gandydancer]

I've seen Tannehill improve in his first 3 years while (aside from week 1 vs the Giants), stafford looks like the same guy since his rookie year.

He was solid in the first game against both the Bears and Vikes last year. That is the Stafford I would love see week in and week out. Some say it will happen in 2020.

I would rather see 13 solid to decent games and 3 same ole Matt than other way around.

The part I will defend RT on is he only played QB a short time in college after moving positions and is evolving quicker IMO.

 

[gandydancer]

This is all based on personal opinion but Stafford is better. While I like RT, there's nothing about him that sets him apart from a average QB. Yeah, we can talk about wins and all that crap too, but Staff is still better.

While I agree Matt is better at this moment. Where do you see RT after his 6th season?

It's hard to answer that question truly. He does seem to be doing more, quicker with less talent around him though.

 

[lionstop1]

While I agree Matt is better at this moment. Where do you see RT after his 6th season?

It's hard to answer that question truly. He does seem to be doing more, quicker with less talent around him though.

I think that ultimately comes down to certain things that will happen within his career. All these guys take different paths and experience different things. They can have tons of talent but never really makes the best of it. I like RT though...before he even came out.

 

[RobBase]

This is all based on personal opinion but Stafford is better. While I like RT, there's nothing about him that sets him apart from a average QB. Yeah, we can talk about wins and all that crap too, but Staff is still better.

Just not better at throwing the ball w accuracy. But with Calvin he can just throw it up all year and pray.

 

[Quackerjacked]

Tannehill has never broken 7 yards an attempt. Brady's career average is 7.4. Stafford has one full season as a starter with it being under 7. I like Tanehill, but he is not as good as Stafford. He has improved more, but that's because he was barely a quarterback when he came into the league. The Stafford that everyone thinks sucks was good enough to throw for 5000 yards and 41 touchdowns in his first full season as a starter. He may not be perfect, but he is good enough to take a team far into the playoffs. I'd take him over most the quarterbacks in this league when age is considered. Above him I have Luck, Rodgers, and ... (I'm a Wilson hater). Tannehill is probably my number 4 when talking about guys to build a franchise around.

 

[broncosmitty]

Tannehill has never broken 7 yards an attempt. Brady's career average is 7.4. Stafford has one full season as a starter with it being under 7. I like Tanehill, but he is not as good as Stafford. He has improved more, but that's because he was barely a quarterback when he came into the league. The Stafford that everyone thinks sucks was good enough to throw for 5000 yards and 41 touchdowns in his first full season as a starter. He may not be perfect, but he is good enough to take a team far into the playoffs. I'd take him over most the quarterbacks in this league when age is considered. Above him I have Luck, Rodgers, and ... (I'm a Wilson hater). Tannehill is probably my number 4 when talking about guys to build a franchise around.

Can I lump you in with me in the "Comparable" department then?

Third and fourth when tallinbough guys to build a franchise around makes me think its safe to do so. But I want to check.

(Staff and Tannehill were .2 yards apart in YPA last year, 6.9 and 7.1. I don't see what that matters. But I see it as comparable.)

 

[Quackerjacked]

Comparable yes, but I don't think they are actually that close. Tannehill had his career high YPA while throwing way fewer passes.

 

[broncosmitty]

Comparable yes, but I don't think they are actually that close. Tannehill had his career high YPA while throwing way fewer passes.

Only his third season though. (Staff only attempted 12 more passes this year. 590 to 602 With a .2 YPA advantage. This season and for their career.)

Staff's third season was his "First" season sometimes around here. And Staff wasn't exactly good in those first two seasons that don't always count. RT hasn't missed a game yet, so he gets stuck counting those first two years.

Talentwise, I'd agree, they aren't all that close. Not many QBs have the God given ability of John Matthew Stafford. Hell, I don't think Joe Montana, Peyton Manning or Tom Brady are any closer than Tannehill, when it comes to raw talent.

 

[TBBishop]

The AFC is incredible stacked. A 10 or 11 win team could miss the playoffs. In Miami, we have an overall better roster than you guys in Detroit (better QB for example) and now we have Suh. So if the Lions can make the post-season with Suh, I like our chances. But I'm not guaranteeing anything. Pats still the team to beat, just like the Packers are the team to beat for you guys up North.

Damn man, you have your excuse ready in April? EARLY APRIL? And of course every year is different but the AFC certainly was not more stacked than the NFC last year. The NFC had 3 12-4 teams while the AFC had 2. the NFC had 2 11-5 wild cards teams while the AFC wildcards were 10 win teams. A 10 win team missed the NFC playoffs, not so in the AFC. I'm guessing your point is the AFC won the offseason.

 

[TBBishop]

Suh carried the Lions for 5 years. If our GM can draft better than a ham sandwich, we should be ok.

If Hickey doesn't draft better than a ham samminch, he'll be canned this year like he probably shoul dhave been last year.

 

[TBBishop]

Yeah right, gtfoh. I like Tannihill but he ain't better than Staff.

You shouldn't have even acknowledged that comment. Tannehill is going to lose his job to fucking Josh Freeman this season.

 

[TBBishop]

Whether he said it or not. Is there ANYTHING that says risk taker with this face?

That porno stash is a risk

 

[TBBishop]

I could swear I saw him complete a 12 yarder one time. I believe he had some touch on it also.

2 questions: are you sure it wasn't tipped and was the guy who caught it wearing that pussy teal uniform?

 

[TBBishop]

I think Staff has more natural ability. But I think RT clearly is more of a student of the game and a harder worker. Still too early to saw who is better. And Im serious aboot that. But I think they're very close in QB power rankings. Both in the middle third of NFL starters...

Joey Harrington would have had more yards per pass/completion than most QBs if he had CJ to chuck it up there to 500 style.

Based on what?

 

[broncosmitty]

Based on what?

Watching them both play tackle football for money.