So what makes the Patriots so great?

[Dude]

So you're agreeing the AFCE has 3 crappy bottom feeders? Sweet. Good to hear Pats fans can admit this.

Hahaha, touché.

Not really though, it's not their fault that good owners are few and far between.

 

[RegentDenali]

can you admit you are happy the pats are not in your division? probably not.

If you're claiming we fear you guys, hate to hurt your feelings, but...

 

[briz almighty]

If you're claiming we fear you guys, hate to hurt your feelings, but...

seachickens would finish 3rd in their division every year if the pats were in it. lool at winning one game. the pats been to 6 sb's and multiple afccg's and you are talking smack as a seachicken fan. thats good stuff.

 

[Dude]

It's not a rough and tumble division until you win it with a 7-9 record with the last place team just 2 games behind you.

After the Pats first SB win, it was a virtual tie in AFCE the following year. Think it was a 3 teams with 9-7 and the 4th team was 8-8. AFCE has always been competitive. It's not the Pats fault that the other teams have rested under the laurels.

 

[Southieinnc]

So you're agreeing the AFCE has 3 crappy bottom feeders? Sweet. Good to hear Pats fans can admit this.

You'd think from your crappy attitude that the seahawks lost today.
Why so cranky?
We are enjoying the Pats win. Does this bother you? (no answer neccessary)

 

[HammerDown]

the "patriot way" does not apply to just the team because Kraft buys into it as well and is a firm believer in it

Besides Spygate, would you say that there might be another reason why "The Patriot Way" might be something we don't hear as much these days?

And another question, could you define "so great" for us?

 

[RegentDenali]

Hahaha, touché.

Not really though, it's not their fault that good owners are few and far between.

I'll agree that it isn't the fault of the Pats the rest of your div has sucked soo much butt the past couple years with dysfunctional ownerships, bad GMs and coaches while the Pats have had stability in the front office and coaching crews. It's a gift from the football gods and to be fully taken advantage of. Any other franchise would love a gift like that.

 

[BF4L]

I think the reason why they have been so good for so long is because they have the best coach, quarterback, & owner in the league. While most people focus around brady/belichick I think kraft should get as much credit. Personally I think he is by far the best owner in the league.

IMO it is all BB.

It is his way or the highway. You counter that with a QB that will end up in the HOF and it a very tough system to beat.

I mean seriously. If Brady throws the ball well the Pats win. When he has the full compliment of receivers he is deadly but a lot of times this year he has not and still has success. That has to be BB.

Someone mentioned that the owner stays out of the way and lets BB do what he wants. See JETS.

Nuff said

 

[HammerDown]

2. the NFL does imbalanced scheduling designed to make the schedules harder for more competitive teams

So then you'd say the Patriots had a tough SOS this season?

 

[HammerDown]

3. he shows his players that he cares about them. he takes the time to get to know everyone from tom brady to the guy at the bottom of the depth chart.

So if a particular player with a violent criminal past was hanging out in nightclubs at 4 am and was associating with known criminals and gangsters, doing PCP and murdering people, getting gang tattoos all over his body and posting pics of himself with guns, he'd probably know about? Since he "gets to know everyone?"

 

[Dude]

Besides Spygate, would you say that there might be another reason why "The Patriot Way" might be something we don't hear as much these days?

And another question, could you define "so great" for us?

Great is 11 consecutive seasons winning the division. No other team has done it ...
Enter: Spygate, shitty AFCE bottom feeders, and anything else that makes you feel better about not-giving-credit-to-a-great-team excuses. No problem.

 

[briz almighty]

So then you'd say the Patriots had a tough SOS this season?

not that hard this year but not easy either. pats had their hardest schedule in 40 years for the franchise in 2007 and went 16-0. they didnt play 16 games against their division either. this point about weak division is so stupid. like the pats cant beat top teams from other divisions or something.

 

[HammerDown]

So which is it?

1. he gives BB complete control of the team.

4. he is not afraid to make unpopular moves... these are the types of moves that the owner gets the final say in.

It's beginning to sound like this guy is infallible. Do any other owners "make unpopular moves?" Or just Kraft?

 

[john01992]

Besides Spygate, would you say that there might be another reason why "The Patriot Way" might be something we don't hear as much these days?

And another question, could you define "so great" for us?

unless you dont actively watch the patriots every week you wont understand it. its not something that gets flaunted around that everyone in new england talks about. its something that you just see.

from the way they conduct themselves in press conferences, to the way they conduct themselves on the field, and the lack of contract disputes/controversial comments==> it becomes pretty obvious.

we see BS come from the jets, the ravens, & yours truly the seahawks when they have players talk smack about other teams. that almost never happens with the pats. the only incident I can recall is when welker made the "feet fetish" rex ryan reference which resulting in belicheck yanking him as a starter for the next game.

when players make a bonehead play BB always yanks them. unsportsman like conduct, late hit, fighting etc. BB is aways very quick to yank em out.

how many public contract disputes do you see coming out of boston? lets see.....welker.......yeah thats pretty much it ==> and welkers a bronco. the pats dont mess around with that sort of BS.

 

[Dude]

I'll agree that it isn't the fault of the Pats the rest of your div has sucked soo much butt the past couple years with dysfunctional ownerships, bad GMs and coaches while the Pats have had stability in the front office and coaching crews. It's a gift from the football gods and to be fully taken advantage of. Any other franchise would love a gift like that.

You forgot one little detail. The Pats became a menace when Bob Kraft bought the team. The first thing he did was hire Bill Parcells, which was the turning point.

 

[HammerDown]

Great is 11 consecutive seasons winning the division. No other team has done it ...
Enter: Spygate, shitty AFCE bottom feeders, and anything else that makes you feel better about not-giving-credit-to-a-great-team excuses. No problem.

What other team in the division would you say should have won it the past 11 seasons? In the past 11 seasons how many AFC East teams would you say were really good?

 

[john01992]

So which is it?





It's beginning to sound like this guy is infallible. Do any other owners "make unpopular moves?" Or just Kraft?

sure other owners make unpopular moves. but like i said before, what sets kraft apart is the frequency at which he does it.

 

[BF4L]

It is always lonely at the top.

 

[HammerDown]

unless you dont actively watch the patriots every week you wont understand it. its not something that gets flaunted around that everyone in new england talks about. its something that you just see.

from the way they conduct themselves in press conferences, to the way they conduct themselves on the field, and the lack of contract disputes/controversial comments==> it becomes pretty obvious.

we see BS come from the jets, the ravens, & yours truly the seahawks when they have players talk smack about other teams. that almost never happens with the pats. the only incident I can recall is when welker made the "feet fetish" rex ryan reference which resulting in belicheck yanking him as a starter for the next game.

when players make a bonehead play BB always yanks them. unsportsman like conduct, late hit, fighting etc. BB is aways very quick to yank em out.

how many public contract disputes do you see coming out of boston? lets see.....welker.......yeah thats pretty much it ==> and welkers a bronco. the pats dont mess around with that sort of BS.

So would you say Tom Brady, as the leader of the Pats, is a great example of "The Patriot Way?"

Since it's not something you can see, would you say it's more like Tom Brady's "intangibles?"

And do you disagree with ex-Pats players who feel "The Patriot Way" is draconian bullshit?

 

[Dude]

What other team in the division would you say should have won it the past 11 seasons? In the past 11 seasons how many AFC East teams would you say were really good?

The point is that no other team in any other division has done it. Surely you are not saying the AFCE is the only division with such crappy teams that not one other team could achieve that record.