So let's say Wisconsin wins the Big 10 Championship

[TheRobotDevil]

No they don't. They'd have two wins over top 10 teams, one at home and one on a neutral site. OSU has 3, with two of those being on the road. OSU also doesn't have two losses, and they've never come close to having a 39 point loss. That is not the makeup of a playoff team.

Literally the only reason we're having this discussion is Iowa upsetting michigan at the horn.

You really cant handle the head to head loss. Lets pretend it never happened Lets make believe PSU didnt win the BIG X East No team is entitled a play off spot. Thats kinda why they play the games

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Nope, they have two conference losses. PSU has one by 39 in a game they were absolutely destroyed in, OSU has one by 3 in a game they dominated.

Did Ohio State win the division?

 

[Across The Field]

I agree OSU had a whole lot more to lose if they played in the CCG. Wisky was a rough game the first time. A loss and OSU takes a massive hit. I think we can both guarantee OSU will be rooting for Wisconsin. And you know why

LOL yeah, OSU wants no part of playing a team who they already beat on the road. I love how you still can't even acknowledge the fact that PSU "beat" OSU at home, at night, while coming off their bye while OSU had just come off a slugfest against Wisconsin on the road at night. Even given optimal circumstances, PSU only "won" due to one of the flukiest plays in all of football even though they were thoroughly dominated in every other aspect of the game.

They talk about "the eye test" for a reason. OSU wins out over PSU in an absolute landslide.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

LOL yeah, OSU wants no part of playing a team who they already beat on the road. I love how you still can't even acknowledge the fact that PSU "beat" OSU at home, at night, while coming off their bye while OSU had just come off a slugfest against Wisconsin on the road at night. Even given optimal circumstances, PSU only "won" due to one of the flukiest plays in all of football even though they were thoroughly dominated in every other aspect of the game.

They talk about "the eye test" for a reason. OSU wins out over PSU in an absolute landslide.

What was the score of the Ohio State Penn State game?

 

[Across The Field]

You really cant handle the head to head loss. Lets pretend it never happened Lets make believe PSU didnt win the BIG X East No team is entitled a play off spot. Thats kinda why they play the games

They did, 12 of them. OSU is 11-1 against one of the toughest schedules with 3 wins over the top 7 teams, two of those on the road. Only Alabama has a better resume.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

They did, 12 of them. OSU is 11-1 against one of the toughest schedules with 3 wins over the top 7 teams, two of those on the road. Only Alabama has a better resume.

Huh I didnt know that did Alabama lose to Penn State. Is Alabama even playing in their CCG?

 

[Across The Field]

Huh I didnt know that did Alabama lose to Penn State. Is Alabama even playing in their CCG?

I said Alabama has a better resume you illiterate stoner.

 

[Across The Field]

Did Ohio State win the division?

By logic, yes. Same 7-1 record as PSU but ranked higher and better in every measurable way. However, due to a game that had nothing to do with OSU and PSU at all, PSU is gifted the trip to the CCG.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

I said Alabama has a better resume you illiterate stoner.

The fact is all you are really doing is playing semantics. Attempting to run every possible angle. To try to justify Ohio State being in the play offs. When they couldn't even win their division or conference. And while a team that defeated them on the field. Won the division and if they win a conference championship.Will have a clear cut better resume. Its not Penn State or Wisconsin's fault Ohio State couldn't get it done on the field. If they could they would be playing Wisconsin this week end.Rather than sitting at home and trying to back into the play offs

 

[TheRobotDevil]

By logic, yes. Same 7-1 record as PSU but ranked higher and better in every measurable way. However, due to a game that had nothing to do with OSU and PSU at all, PSU is gifted the trip to the CCG.

by logic if PSU wins 8-1 conference record.Opposed to a 7-1 conference record.With a win over OSU and a conference championship. Its really not that complicated

rankings are human polls unreliable.I'll take whats done on the field

common sense PSU has the tie breaker and won the conference for some reason. Wonder what that was

 

[Across The Field]

The fact is all you are really doing is playing semantics. Attempting to run every possible angle. To try to justify Ohio State being in the play offs. When they couldn't even win their division or conference. And while a team that defeated them on the field. Won the division and if they win a conference championship.Will have a clear cut better resume. Its not Penn State or Wisconsin's fault Ohio State couldn't get it done on the field. If they could they would be playing Wisconsin this week end.Rather than sitting at home and trying to back into the play offs

If OSU didn't get it done on the field better than Wisconsin and PSU, why are they ranked several places higher than both of them?

 

[TheRobotDevil]

If OSU didn't get it done on the field better than Wisconsin and PSU, why are they ranked several places higher than both of them?

Human polls what are they ranked in the actual conference standings? If PSU wins by rights they should definitely jump OSU with the added head to head win.The same should be said for Wisky for playing the extra game. Championships are in the criteria as is head to head

 

[Across The Field]

by logic if PSU wins 8-1 conference record.Opposed to a 7-1 conference record.With a win over OSU and a conference championship. Its really not that complicated

rankings are human polls unreliable.I'll take whats done on the field

common sense PSU has the tie breaker and won the conference for some reason. Wonder what that was

OSU has the same conference record and has been exponentially better over their 12 game season, beating more quality teams and doing it in far more impressive fashion.

PSU won because Iowa upset michigan, plain and simple. On the field this year, OSU was better than PSU outside of 4 minutes. Literally. By every single statistical metric, OSU is leaps and bounds better as a team. It just is what it is. One remarkably flukey win doesn't change that. If it wasn't, why would OSU be considered such a heavy favorite for a playoff spot even without winning the conference?

 

[Across The Field]

Human polls what are they ranked in the actual conference standings? If PSU wins by rights they should definitely jump OSU with the added head to head win.The same should be said for Wisky for playing the extra game. Championships are in the criteria as is head to head

And this is where you would be wrong. You're assuming a loss for Ohio State, which at worst would give them the same amount of losses as PSU and Wisconsin. There is no logic there to assume that, considering OSU has been better than both of them this season. The "conference championship" label is extremely hollow when the game matched up the 3rd and 4th best teams in the conference.

 

[Wamu]

by logic if PSU wins 8-1 conference record.Opposed to a 7-1 conference record.With a win over OSU and a conference championship. Its really not that complicated

rankings are human polls unreliable.I'll take whats done on the field

common sense PSU has the tie breaker and won the conference for some reason. Wonder what that was

Hey if Ohio State gets into the Playoff will you shit your pants on Sunday?

 

[TheRobotDevil]

OSU has the same conference record and has been exponentially better over their 12 game season, beating more quality teams and doing it in far more impressive fashion.

PSU won because Iowa upset michigan, plain and simple. On the field this year, OSU was better than PSU outside of 4 minutes. Literally. By every single statistical metric, OSU is leaps and bounds better as a team. It just is what it is. One remarkably flukey win doesn't change that. If it wasn't, why would OSU be considered such a heavy favorite for a playoff spot even without winning the conference?

They do not have the same conference record. The head to head breaks that tie. You're playing semantics again. Do we go back to discrediting OSU's win over Michigan due to one play? You can argue and skew numbers. It doesn't change the results on the field. Or that PSU beat OSU straight out on the field.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Hey if Ohio State gets into the Playoff will you shit your pants on Sunday?

No you know me I'll just laugh and slap an asterisk on it

 

[Wamu]

They do not have the same conference record. The head to head breaks that tie. You're playing semantics again. Do we go back to discrediting OSU's win over Michigan due to one play? You can argue and skew numbers. It doesn't change the results on the field. Or that PSU beat OSU straight out on the field.

Are you sure just the head to head will break the tie? If wins over top 25 teams or FPI rankings are any factor that edge goes to Ohio State. The Buckeyes are # 2 in W's over top 25 teams & # 2 FPI only behind Bama.

 

[Across The Field]

They do not have the same conference record. The head to head breaks that tie. You're playing semantics again. Do we go back to discrediting OSU's win over Michigan due to one play? You can argue and skew numbers. It doesn't change the results on the field. Or that PSU beat OSU straight out on the field.

Converting a 4th and 1 is not comparable to blocking a FG and returning it for a TD. I haven't skewed a single thing.

OSU has been better this year from start to finish outside of 4 minutes. Everyone can see that but you. Winning an arbitrary 13th game against a team OSU already beat on the road means nothing. You say OSU would be backing into the playoffs, though it's PSU who backed their way into the CCG just because of a huge upset in a game they weren't even a part of.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Are you sure just the head to head will break the tie? If wins over top 25 teams or FPI rankings are any factor that edge goes to Ohio State. The Buckeyes are # 2 in W's over top 25 teams & # 2 FP

That's the thing if PSU wins. They would have

The same win total
An 8-1 conference record as opposed to a 7-1 conference record
A conference championship
And a head to head victory

That's just too much for me to look past