Simpson a Viking

[flamingrey]

Simpson had 54% of his yards in 3 games. He topped 50 yards just 4 times. The guy hardly drew the coverage required to keep teams honest with AJ on the other side. Come on. Let's be real. If you're a D-Cord you don't lose sleep at night before playing the Bengals because of Simpson messing up your coverage for AJ on the other side.

He had 4 years to get his stuff in order and crack the lineup. He failed. I'm pretty sure we can find another guy that can come in and do what he did...appear for 3 games out of 16.

Before you let someone go, it's nice to have a contingency plan in place. And that contingency plan is usually on your roster. The best teams always do this. They let starters go when they have someone ready to take their place. This is not the case for the Bengals and Simpson unless of course you see no issue with replacing Simpson with Binns.

Fact of the matter is the receiving corps is worse today than it was yesterday.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The difference for the "rookie" coming in as the #2 guy this year...

We have AJ Green who is already a top 5 WR in the league IMO, Shipley is due back to take some added pressure off, we have Gresham, and Baby Hawk. Hawk really improved last year the more playing time he got.

Green was missing a #1 WR to play opposite, he was missing Shipley, and he had a rookie QB throwing to him. Green is a freak of nature. The next "rookie" WR coming in to only ever compete for the #2 job must be a good possession WR, and he will have talent surrounding him with a little more seasoned QB now. This next rookie, even being a 3rd round pick is much more in position to succeed than Green was, who still defied the odds and made the pro-bowl.

 

[vancelot23]

I think the contingency plan was always the draft. I'd much rather have Green/Wright, Green/Floyd, Green/Randle, Green/Hill, etc than Green/Simpson.

 

[flamingrey]

I would hardly consider the unknown a good "contingency". Hence the issue with letting a guy go that we could've gotten on the cheap.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I think the contingency plan was always the draft. I'd much rather have Green/Wright, Green/Floyd, Green/Randle, Green/Hill, etc than Green/Simpson.

Yes but would you rather have those than Green/Simpson/DeCastro or Green/Simpson/Gilmore or Green/Simpson/Hightower? Because you have to add that 1st round pick we wouldn't have to spend on WR too.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I would hardly consider the unknown a good "contingency". Hence the issue with letting a guy go that we could've gotten on the cheap.

He is starting the season on a 3 game suspension, and will probably get arrested before the season is over for more drug related problems. He can't be depended on. Are we not supposed to get rid of the knuckleheads?

 

[vancelot23]

I would hardly consider the unknown a good "contingency". Hence the issue with letting a guy go that we could've gotten on the cheap.

So by your theory, we should always resign sucky players so we don't have to draft good ones? good plan.

 

[vancelot23]

Yes but would you rather have those than Green/Simpson/DeCastro or Green/Simpson/Gilmore or Green/Simpson/Hightower? Because you have to add that 1st round pick we wouldn't have to spend on WR too.

I'd rather gave Green/DeCastro/Wright, or Green/Gilmore/Wright than Green Simpson DeCastro, yes.

 

[Servo]

So by your theory, we should always resign sucky players so we don't have to draft good ones? good plan.

again, first full year 700+ yards and 4 TD's. It's not like letting go of Quan Cosby. Simpson is young and has proven that when he's on he can play with the best of them. if anything reminds me of getting rid of Ahmad Brooks (another talented 'sucky' player that the Bengals invested in and let go for nothing).

 

[cincygrad]

I'm trying to understand your logic Vance..... Back in the early days of FA you were championing the Reggie Nelson resigning by claiming "he was better than anyone else we had" as a good reason to ink him and ignore the other safeties on the market. Heck, you even gave us a B in FA simply for resigning Nelson, acquiring a pair of guards that were over the hill and underperforming in their current deals, and replacing two solid d-linemen with two d-linemen that never lived up to the hype. In essence, you gave us a 'B' even though we failed to significantly improve the roster. Now you're arguing that it's a bad idea to re-sign a guy even though he is better than any current receiver on the roster? What gives?

BTW -- I'm not sad to see Simpson go. I didn't want him back. But I would have preferred we acquired a veteran receiver which would have allowed us to lose Simpson and not have to worry about a rookie or un-drafted FA step into the 2 role.

 

[vancelot23]

I would have preferred a veteran too, but all the veteran WRs went very quickly, and expensively, therefore, was never an option. I liked signing Nelson because both the FA and draft pool at safety are horrible. It was Nelson or nobody, literally. WR is deep in the draft, however. Simpson is barely better than the guys on the roster. He's a #3 WR at best. We need a #2. In 4 years, he managed to see the field in 1 and had over half of his offense in 3 games. I see no "upside". He can jump really high...big deal. He was over-drafted, he's obviously not very smart, he drops a lot of passes, and is an idiot on top of that. Why not draft a WR an improve the position? Isn't that the purpose of the draft? Why not keep Crocker then? Why not keep the corners we have as starters? Why bother drafting? To get better.

 

[vancelot23]

again, first full year 700+ yards and 4 TD's. It's not like letting go of Quan Cosby. Simpson is young and has proven that when he's on he can play with the best of them. if anything reminds me of getting rid of Ahmad Brooks (another talented 'sucky' player that the Bengals invested in and let go for nothing).

And again, 400 of those yards were in 3 games. Big deal. He was 52nd and 69th in catches. It's not as if he lit teams up. It took him 4 years to do that?? A worthwhile rookie might not be amazing in year 1, but it won't take him 4 to find the field. BTW, I fail to see he can "play with the best of them". Bengals fans continue to vastly overrate a guy just because he can jump high. He has literally done next to nothing for 4 years. Why would you not want to draft a guy who can be better?

 

[Tubbs1518]

I'd rather gave Green/DeCastro/Wright, or Green/Gilmore/Wright than Green Simpson DeCastro, yes.

Ok but would rather have that or Green/Simpson/DeCastro/Gilmore? Because you still have to spend a 1st on a WR without Simpson.

 

[vancelot23]

DeCastro and Gilmore aren't falling to us. I'm glad to be rid of Simpson. He has done nothing to warrant the type of defense he's getting here. Show me something he's done that doesn't involve flipping into the endzone. We could resign Livings, and then not have to draft a G too.

 

[ckhokie]

subtraction by subtraction. Rome is a notoriously slow learner and still put up 750+ yards recieving with 4 TD's in his first full year as a starter in a new system with a rookie QB.

It was his first full year because he was retarded, couldn't grasp the playbook, and wasn't fit to be on the field. That in NO way counts as you 'first field time.'

This guy has been a bum for as long as we have had him, and while I will be the first to agree we don't really have a #2 WR now, Jerome Simpson was in NO WAY an #2 caliber NFL WR

4 seasons. 1,000 yards. 7 total TD's. Off the field issues out the ass. Yet some of you are really upset to see him go??

 

[Tubbs1518]

Says who that he was stupid? Marvin didn't want to play Dunlap either but had too.

 

[ckhokie]

Fact of the matter is the receiving corps is worse today than it was yesterday.

No it's not.

If we have made no changes by September 30th, then maybe the WR corps is worse off, but until then, Simpson was still going to be suspended and in no way would be contributing to the Bengals anyways.

 

[kramer1]

Simpson was too retarded to learn the playbook for his first 2 seasons and then had 7 pounds of weed sent to his house through the mail. We're sad to see him go?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Some of you idiots will argue anything.

 

[Servo]

It was his first full year because he was retarded, couldn't grasp the playbook, and wasn't fit to be on the field. That in NO way counts as you 'first field time.'

This guy has been a bum for as long as we have had him, and while I will be the first to agree we don't really have a #2 WR now, Jerome Simpson was in NO WAY an #2 caliber NFL WR

4 seasons. 1,000 yards. 7 total TD's. Off the field issues out the ass. Yet some of you are really upset to see him go??

why'd you put 'first field time' in quotes? I never said that. If you want to break it down another way, first 18 games as a starter..just shy of 1000 recieving yards and 6 TD's. We have no one behind him and we're happy this guy is run off? Makes no sense at all.

 

[Servo]

And again, 400 of those yards were in 3 games. Big deal. He was 52nd and 69th in catches. It's not as if he lit teams up. It took him 4 years to do that?? A worthwhile rookie might not be amazing in year 1, but it won't take him 4 to find the field. BTW, I fail to see he can "play with the best of them". Bengals fans continue to vastly overrate a guy just because he can jump high. He has literally done next to nothing for 4 years. Why would you not want to draft a guy who can be better?

because there is no guarantee that a draft pick will produce. In fact, if it's a 3rd round pick it's likely they'll never have a season with 700+ yards recieving. As far as getting his yards in bunches I would say that's pretty typical for a WR. I'm sure if you look down stat lines its not an even distribution. they come in bunches. That being said I know that jerome is very inconsistent but so was Dalton as his QB. Overall, the dude has 18 starts. In those 18 games he has just shy of 1000 yards recieving and 6 td's. Cherry pick the stats any way you want to suit your argument but those are his stats as a starting WR.