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Has he ever given any indication he doesn't want to be somewhere? Not that he has much choice.

Not that I am aware of but I wouldn't think he would want to go to New England
 

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Not that I am aware of but I wouldn't think he would want to go to New England
Can't imagine many young - about to be rich - guys would choose to go to NE now (or Cleveland, etc) but they don't have much of a choice.

He hasn't struck me as someone who would not go wherever he is taken and more than willingly. Guessing not something NE is considering when they pick their guy.
 

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Can't imagine many young - about to be rich - guys would choose to go to NE now (or Cleveland, etc) but they don't have much of a choice.

He hasn't struck me as someone who would not go wherever he is taken and more than willingly. Guessing not something NE is considering when they pick their guy.

That's my point no one wants to come here.. Hunter doesn't really have much say but IF he doesn't want to go to NE and he doesn't want to be in NE that's a receipe for disaster
 

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That's my point no one wants to come here.. Hunter doesn't really have much say but IF he doesn't want to go to NE and he doesn't want to be in NE that's a receipe for disaster
I guess, but guessing this would be true of many you might take. Doubt it will or should factor in.
 

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I mean, could work out and if they walked away with Carter or Hunter, maybe Milroe, Dart or Shouk (sp) and Henderson in rounds 1-3 it could be exciting.

But not sure why getting a QB even later in an allegedly weak QB class is the "smart play".
Put Carter on the line with Garrett and the defense becomes even better. Secondary gets a boost and LB's get a boost with these 2 guys raising hell getting to the QB.

Whether the QB class sucks or not, Cleveland isn't going into TC with Kenny Pickett as QB1 unless the goal is to get into the top 3 next draft with a better class of QB prospects.
 

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I don't think they will base their decisions off next year. I mean, at this point before his senior season was said Darnold was the can't miss guy.

The can't miss guy in 26 supposedly Arch Manning. Was listening to Matt Miller yesterday and he seemed pretty sure he will not enter the next draft. Though, sure, he could be wrong....but not like he needs the money.
Darnold did help the Vikings almost win the division. Is it the QB himself or the shitty Jets organization?
 

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The more I read mocks, the more O want Dallas to trade back.

Hopefully trade back a little two times and draft around 20 or 22, picking up draft stock along the way.
 

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The more I read mocks, the more O want Dallas to trade back.

Hopefully trade back a little two times and draft around 20 or 22, picking up draft stock along the way.
That's how I feel about the Bears. Most, if not all of the blue chippers will likely be off the board by the time we they pick 10th. If the right trading partner can be found, I'd love to see a trade back.
 

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The more I read mocks, the more O want Dallas to trade back.

Hopefully trade back a little two times and draft around 20 or 22, picking up draft stock along the way.

The problem is about every team from pick 10 and on is going to feel the same way. Heart of this draft is from about pick 30-50 where you will find the right level of value in getting a starter but maybe not a star. Picks about 10-20 are not looking great on return.
 

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Put Carter on the line with Garrett and the defense becomes even better. Secondary gets a boost and LB's get a boost with these 2 guys raising hell getting to the QB.

Whether the QB class sucks or not, Cleveland isn't going into TC with Kenny Pickett as QB1 unless the goal is to get into the top 3 next draft with a better class of QB prospects.
They need an offense, speed and playmakers. This is a good class to load up
 

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The problem is about every team from pick 10 and on is going to feel the same way. Heart of this draft is from about pick 30-50 where you will find the right level of value in getting a starter but maybe not a star. Picks about 10-20 are not looking great on return.
I think Dane Brugler only has 13 RD1 grades and 4 of them are Edge Rushers and 2 of them are TEs.

Teams will want to trade up with Dallas imo. Dallas probably wont want to trade down
 

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I think Dane Brugler only has 13 RD1 grades and 4 of them are Edge Rushers and 2 of them are TEs.

Teams will want to trade up with Dallas imo. Dallas probably wont want to trade down

I've heard it as low from some teams as that of only 10 1st round grades. Either way let's go by yours you could say then picks 13-26 you are probably looking at who is still available and saying they are not much different than those at pick 27-45.
 

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I've heard it as low from some teams as that of only 10 1st round grades. Either way let's go by yours you could say then picks 13-26 you are probably looking at who is still available and saying they are not much different than those at pick 27-45.
Thats possible. I think in a lot of previous drafts you wouldn't see someone like Will Campbell being mocked as high as pick 4. It might just not be seen as a strong draft up top. The big thing here is that the player that people would trade up for, assuming he falls and I think he will at this point, is Shedeur Sanders. Maybe add Jaxon Dart in there.

Which teams are actually in the market to reach on a young QB? Titans take Ward. Browns probably take Hunter or maybe Carter. Saints could very easily stick with Carr and Rattler and give Carr that TE that he usually needs. Jets can also grab a top 10 pick. Outside of that range, you have the Steelers who don't have much ammo to move up. So...there might not be a market for moving up.

I think RD1 will be dead phones on the trade market. Rd2-RD4 will be trade chaos as teams navigate to get guys that fit their system.
 

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Put Carter on the line with Garrett and the defense becomes even better. Secondary gets a boost and LB's get a boost with these 2 guys raising hell getting to the QB.

Whether the QB class sucks or not, Cleveland isn't going into TC with Kenny Pickett as QB1 unless the goal is to get into the top 3 next draft with a better class of QB prospects.
I mean, put Carter on any team and likely their D gets better.....but not sure this is what the Browns need most.

The talk can be fun but really comes down to how much Browns like Sanders. If they do they should and will take him at 2.
 

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Darnold did help the Vikings almost win the division. Is it the QB himself or the shitty Jets organization?
could be Jets (or Carolina) but let's go only by what we know.....in 7 seasons he really only had one decent year (and was awful down the stretch).

don't think I'm planning my 2025 on a QB who may be the top guy by 2026 and also looks like a good chance wont even cone out in 2026.
 

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I think Dane Brugler only has 13 RD1 grades and 4 of them are Edge Rushers and 2 of them are TEs.

Teams will want to trade up with Dallas imo. Dallas probably wont want to trade down
I do happen to like Brugler more than most......but he's not end all be all (and has had some big misses) and doubt his grades are considered much or at all by FOs.
 

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I for one don’t think Darnold will have much success in Seattle. We’ll see what they do in the draft but right now that’s not a great team and I just don’t think Darnold is all that good, he played poorly in the playoff game and in the Week 18 game in Detroit. He was in a great situation last year with the Vikings, he was on a very talented offense that includes the best receiver in the NFL in Jefferson. Darnold proved he can be adequate but he’s not a franchise QB caliber player.
 
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