Seahawks vs Patroits, who wins?

[Wolvie]

Russell has a better game than the worst game of his career last week, seahawks have zero turnovers, and the defense holds NE to under 250 yards until garbage time (4th quarter and patriots down by over one possession). Hawks win a rather boring superbowl, 23-13

 

[dkmightyhammer]

COMEDY GOLD...

Laugh it you like but I'll put Russell Wilson's first 3 years up against almost any QB you can think of. It's right there in black and white for all to see.

 

[molsaniceman]

Its crazy how much better current QB stats are compared to older QB stats.

Heres some stats



Russell Wilson's QBR shows no quarterback gets more help - ESPN

 

[GNG]

Its crazy how much better current QB stats are compared to older QB stats.

No surprise here... The NFL rules changes favor the offense much more than in the past.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

No surprise here... The NFL rules changes favor the offense much more than in the past.

That is very true. Its one of the main reasons I think JJ Watt should be given the MVP this year.

 

[GNG]

Laugh it you like but I'll put Russell Wilson's first 3 years up against almost any QB you can think of. It's right there in black and white for all to see.

Wilson benefits from playing on a team with the best defense in the NFL. Put him on a team like Dallas or Green Bay and he wouldn't be as successful.

 

[GNG]

That is very true. Its one of the main reasons I think JJ Watt should be given the MVP this year.

JJ Watt will get the award for best defensive player but the MVP award will most likely go to Aaron Rodgers although I feel Tony Romo should get it.

 

[Wolvie]

Wilson benefits from playing on a team with the best defense in the NFL. Put him on a team like Dallas or Green Bay and he wouldn't be as successful.

That goes without saying doesn't it?

 

[Wolvie]

Put any other qb on the seahawks and the Seahawks probably aren't as successful though

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Wilson benefits from playing on a team with the best defense in the NFL. Put him on a team like Dallas or Green Bay and he wouldn't be as successful.

Wilson is lucky to have a good team around him that's for sure but you can say the same for any QB. Put Rodgers, Manning or Brady in a Titans or Jags jersey and do you think they still win 12 games? That article about QBR (which doesn't value rushing stats by the way) basically says that Wilson has got 10 wins that he didn't earn because the defense won the game instead. Fair enough, he still has 32 other wins that he "earned" then.

 

[GNG]

Put any other qb on the seahawks and the Seahawks probably aren't as successful though

Nonsense...

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Wilson is lucky to have a good team around him that's for sure but you can say the same for any QB. Put Rodgers, Manning or Brady in a Titans or Jags jersey and do you think they still win 12 games? That article about QBR (which doesn't value rushing stats by the way) basically says that Wilson has got 10 wins that he didn't earn because the defense won the game instead. Fair enough, he still has 32 other wins that he "earned" then.

I'd love to see Manning in a Titans jersey. Send his ass back to Tennessee where he can hang out with Hammer.

 

[SonnyCID]

Heres some stats



Russell Wilson's QBR shows no quarterback gets more help - ESPN

QBR is a flawed 'stat'.

 

[GNG]

Wilson is lucky to have a good team around him that's for sure but you can say the same for any QB. Put Rodgers, Manning or Brady in a Titans or Jags jersey and do you think they still win 12 games? That article about QBR (which doesn't value rushing stats by the way) basically says that Wilson has got 10 wins that he didn't earn because the defense won the game instead. Fair enough, he still has 32 other wins that he "earned" then.

 

[GNG]

QBR is a flawed 'stat'.

You are wrong but it just goes to show how little you understand about QBR.

 

[Wolvie]

Nonsense...

Excellent retort.

RW's ability to keep the play alive is second to none. That's a must with the hawks o-line being as bad as it is.

And when the game is on the line so.e people buckle under the pressure. RW elevates his game instead.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

I'm thinking the Pats win. Better offense, sound defense going up against a team that has a very good defense and an offense that is effective but containable.

Collins as the Wilson spy, Pats DBs cover 1 on 1 like maniacs, Lynch can't win it by himself.

Brady uses his short passes to keep pressure off, they run just enough to keep Seattle honest. Edelman has a big day, making up for the bad ones Welker had in these games.

Gronk takes a lot of attention freeing up other Pats receivers.

 

[SonnyCID]

You are wrong but it just goes to show how little you understand about QBR.

Most people figured out it was BS when Orlovsky finished year with a higher score going 0-10 than Big Ben when he finished 12-4 and won a SB.

Use whatever you need to get your troll on though. Even made up stats.

 

[SonnyCID]

I'm thinking the Pats win. Better offense, sound defense going up against a team that has a very good defense and an offense that is effective but containable.

Collins as the Wilson spy, Pats DBs cover 1 on 1 like maniacs, Lynch can't win it by himself.

Brady uses his short passes to keep pressure off, they run just enough to keep Seattle honest. Edelman has a big day, making up for the bad ones Welker had in these games.

Gronk takes a lot of attention freeing up other Pats receivers.

That's not what I've heard.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

That's not what I've heard.

How about "won't" then...?