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NO...You need to READ again.
2000 Arizona was 5-6 and UN-Ranked!
2001 UCLA was 7-4 and UN-ranked!
I don't care about the "names" of OSU's opponents - I care about their "quality" and neither Arizona nor UCLA were "good" opponents!

your comment leading into your "work" - "Let's look at OSU's P5 opponents since 1990 by year!"

as I said, try again if you want.

Also, as long as when OSU schedules these teams they are top teams it's really all I can judge them on (same with any school). How those teams play sometimes a decade later out of anyone's hands.
 

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You hope your fandom never results to what? Looking at reality instead of myths?
Never results in caring about my conference and another team more than my own team since my own team is often an also-ran.
 

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your comment leading into your "work" - "Let's look at OSU's P5 opponents since 1990 by year!"

as I said, try again if you want.

OMG!
Would you like to LOOK at the post again? It starts with...

"OSU played the above teams FIFTY times from 1990 to 2023 yet only 17 of the above "named" teams ended up ranked!"
Let's look at OSU's P5 opponents since 1990 by year!

Then I listed 17 opponents and you couldn't connect the dots?

Also, as long as when OSU schedules these teams they are top teams it's really all I can judge them on (same with any school). How those teams play sometimes a decade later out of anyone's hands.
That is a LAME excuse for poor OOC scheduling. Of the original list of all P5 teams played over the previous 34 seasons, how many have been ranked at least HALF of the time? The answer is FIVE teams that OSU played just 12 times in 34 seasons. I'm surprised OSU didn't rush out to scheule Vanderbilt after the 2012 & 2013 seasons as they were ranked those two years (the only times in the past 70 seasons)!
 

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Also, as long as when OSU schedules these teams they are top teams it's really all I can judge them on (same with any school). How those teams play sometimes a decade later out of anyone's hands.
Who says they are "top teams"?

Since 1990 OSU is the winningest program in FBS.
The NEXT 10 winningest OOC P5 teams for OSU are: Alabama, Georgia, Florida State, Oklahoma, Florida, Clemson, Oregon, Miami-Florida, LSU, and Texas.

Over the past 34 seasons OSU has scheduled these 10 teams exactly 8 times (and only 6 of those 8 teams were ranked)! Let's see 8/34 works out to LESS than 1 every 4 years. Remember, OSU played 50 P5 OOC games yet, only 8 were against "tough" opponents. Where are all of those "tough" teams?

Compare that to Florida: Florida is the 6th winningest team over the past 34 years.
The NEXT 10 winningest OOC P5 teams for Florida are: Ohio State, Florida State, Oklahoma, Michigan, Clemson, Oregon, Penn State, Miami-Florida, Texas, and Wisconsin.

Over the past 34 seasons UF has scheduled these 10 teams exactly 39 times (and 29 of of the 39 were ranked)! Let's see 39/34 works out to MORE than 1 every year. Remember, played only 43 P5 OOC games yet 39 of those were against "tough" opponents. UF has played almost FIVE times (39/8) as many "tough" opponents as OSU has played (and UF hasn't played the most!!!).
 

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OMG!
Would you like to LOOK at the post again? It starts with...

"OSU played the above teams FIFTY times from 1990 to 2023 yet only 17 of the above "named" teams ended up ranked!"
Let's look at OSU's P5 opponents since 1990 by year!

Then I listed 17 opponents and you couldn't connect the dots?


That is a LAME excuse for poor OOC scheduling. Of the original list of all P5 teams played over the previous 34 seasons, how many have been ranked at least HALF of the time? The answer is FIVE teams that OSU played just 12 times in 34 seasons. I'm surprised OSU didn't rush out to scheule Vanderbilt after the 2012 & 2013 seasons as they were ranked those two years (the only times in the past 70 seasons)!
you messed up and could not follow your own comments. Pretty comical.

Lame excuse? I mean, if we schedule a top 5 team like Va Tech but by time we play they fall off the map is that on OSU (or any team this happens to)?

Home and homes with ND, Miami FL, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, washington, Va Tech, TCU and so many others and scheduled when those teams were at top of the sport. and of course upcoming series with bama, UGA, Texas again and others. Cannot ask for much more. If you care to tell me the teams who you think schedule so much better please feel free to finally answer this question I have asked a number of times.

Once again this is not really a BIG-SEC topic for me but if you want to make it one since that is all you think you have when it comes to CFB feel free.
 

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Who says they are "top teams"?

Since 1990 OSU is the winningest program in FBS.
The NEXT 10 winningest OOC P5 teams for OSU are: Alabama, Georgia, Florida State, Oklahoma, Florida, Clemson, Oregon, Miami-Florida, LSU, and Texas.

Over the past 34 seasons OSU has scheduled these 10 teams exactly 8 times (and only 6 of those 8 teams were ranked)! Let's see 8/34 works out to LESS than 1 every 4 years. Remember, OSU played 50 P5 OOC games yet, only 8 were against "tough" opponents. Where are all of those "tough" teams?

Compare that to Florida: Florida is the 6th winningest team over the past 34 years.
The NEXT 10 winningest OOC P5 teams for Florida are: Ohio State, Florida State, Oklahoma, Michigan, Clemson, Oregon, Penn State, Miami-Florida, Texas, and Wisconsin.

Over the past 34 seasons UF has scheduled these 10 teams exactly 39 times (and 29 of of the 39 were ranked)! Let's see 39/34 works out to MORE than 1 every year. Remember, played only 43 P5 OOC games yet 39 of those were against "tough" opponents. UF has played almost FIVE times (39/8) as many "tough" opponents as OSU has played (and UF hasn't played the most!!!).
Thanks I forgot about Oregon who we also had a home-home with. told you why SEC teams were avoided in the past and it's because OSU likes home-home series and many SEC teams seem to prefer neutral OOC big games. Now that some have changed Bama and UGA have gone on the schedule.

Cool story about UF....too bad they have been an alsoran nearly entire time since Meyer left in 2010. I get why all you have now is schedule talk.
 

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you messed up and could not follow your own comments. Pretty comical.
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Lame excuse? I mean, if we schedule a top 5 team like Va Tech but by time we play they fall off the map is that on OSU (or any team this happens to)?
So you scheduled Va Tech during the season when they were ranked #5? They have never finished #5 in their history. You played VT in 2014 and 2015. The only time VT finished in the top 5 in their history was 1999.

Home and homes with ND, Miami FL, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, washington, Va Tech, TCU and so many others and scheduled when those teams were at top of the sport. and of course upcoming series with bama, UGA, Texas again and others.
"Name teams" ≠ "good teams"

Cannot ask for much more. If you care to tell me the teams who you think schedule so much better please feel free to finally answer this question I have asked a number of times.

Once again this is not really a BIG-SEC topic for me but if you want to make it one since that is all you think you have when it comes to CFB feel free.
For starters, OSU should schedule one of the following each year: Alabama, Georgia, Florida State, Oklahoma, Florida, Clemson, Miami-Florida, LSU, or Texas.
 

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Cool story about UF....too bad they have been an alsoran nearly entire time since Meyer left in 2010. I get why all you have now is schedule talk.

OSU might also be an also-ran if they played Florida's schedule> But, we will never know since OSU won't play tough teams.
 

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OSU might also be an also-ran if they played Florida's schedule> But, we will never know since OSU won't play tough teams.<----

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Maybe you should look at Ohio State's schedule before saying anything else on the topic.

You say they don't play anyone yet they play @ Oregon this season. The Ducks are highly ranked, top 5 in multiple publications.



Now this is funny as hell. The Florida Gators play Samford this season. That's a cupcake FCS team.
 

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So you scheduled Va Tech during the season when they were ranked #5? They have never finished #5 in their history. You played VT in 2014 and 2015. The only time VT finished in the top 5 in their history was 1999.


"Name teams" ≠ "good teams"


For starters, OSU should schedule one of the following each year: Alabama, Georgia, Florida State, Oklahoma, Florida, Clemson, Miami-Florida, LSU, or Texas.
OSU schedules a tough OOC team nearly every season. all I care about. If your CFB world is focused on schedules of other teams I don't want to stop from having fun while your team is so often an alsoran.
 

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OSU might also be an also-ran if they played Florida's schedule> But, we will never know since OSU won't play tough teams.
It's tough to take you seriously. OSU wont play tough teams but have scheduled Texas, ND, Oklahoma, USC, Miami, Fla, Oregon, Bama and UGA among others?

Not only is your CFB life about schedules of other teams but you need to make things up for your personal satisfaction.
 

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OSU might also be an also-ran if they played Florida's schedule> But, we will never know since OSU won't play tough teams.
another FYI is I think UF's schedules are fine and also would think as a fan you'd be glad to see them broaden their horizons outside the state?
 

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It's tough to take you seriously. OSU wont play tough teams but have scheduled Texas, ND, Oklahoma, USC, Miami, Fla, Oregon, Bama and UGA among others?

Not only is your CFB life about schedules of other teams but you need to make things up for your personal satisfaction.

How does this sound? To makes sure our Buckeyes always win all of their OOC games how about playing the bestest H.S. teams in the state?

It's the weekend & it's almost 4:20! :yes:

I got some other bad scheduling ideas if you're interested.
 

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Maybe you should look at Ohio State's schedule before saying anything else on the topic.

You apparently have NOT been paying attention to this thread. I have looked at OSU schedule and It is so-so at best.

You say they don't play anyone yet they play @ Oregon this season. The Ducks are highly ranked, top 5 in multiple publications.

One game does NOT make a season. One game does NOT make a pattern.

Now this is funny as hell. The Florida Gators play Samford this season. That's a cupcake FCS team.
Yes, they play 1 FCS team (Samford), 1 G5 team (Central Florida) and 7 Top 25 teams compared to 0 FCS teams, 3 G5 teams (Western Michigan, Marshall, and Akron) and only 3 ranked teams for OSU. You lose!
 

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How does this sound? To makes sure our Buckeyes always win all of their OOC games how about playing the bestest H.S. teams in the state?
That's ONE way to improve OSU schedule!!!
 

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That's ONE way to improve OSU schedule!!!


Have ya noticed you have not taken me up yet on naming all the teams you think schedule tougher than OSU over the last 25-30 seasons? After that last fiasco by you I can see why, I guess.
 

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Have ya noticed you have not taken me up yet on naming all the teams you think schedule tougher than OSU over the last 25-30 seasons?
You are a glutton for punishment! You OSU fans are absolutely CLUELESS about scheduling!!! IN NO CATEGORY IS OSU NEAR THE TOP IN SCHEDULING!!!!

These involve ALL regular season games.

So here are the lists of teams that schedule BETTER than OSU.

VS Top 25 teams in OOC games, there are 25 teams that have played MORE top 25 teams than has OSU:
Notre Dame 121, Florida State 53, Pittsburgh 41, Miami*(Florida) 40, Southern California 40, Syracuse 32, Georgia Tech 31, Florida 31, Stanford 30, Louisville 30, South Carolina 30, UCLA 29, Boston College 29, Washington 29, Virginia Tech 27, Colorado 26, Virginia 25, Michigan 25, Texas 25, Clemson 24, Michigan State 23, Oklahoma 22, Tennessee 22, Arizona 21, Penn State 20, Ohio State 19 (4th in B1G)
VS Top 25 teams in the regular season games, there are 42 teams that have played MORE top 25 teams than has OSU:
Florida 147, Auburn 140, Arkansas 137, Louisiana State 136, Tennessee 134, South Carolina 131, Vanderbilt 130, Alabama 127, Mississippi State 126, Michigan State 126, Georgia 124, Iowa State 123, Colorado 123, Kentucky 122, Florida State 121, Notre Dame 121, Oklahoma 119, Texas A&M 118, Michigan 117, Stanford 117, USC 116, Missouri 115, Mississippi 115, Kansas 114, Arizona 113, UCLA 113, Penn State 112, Georgia Tech 112, Minnesota 112, Oklahoma State 112, Illinois 112, Northwestern 112, Maryland 111, Baylor 110, Texas 110, Purdue 110,
Boston College 109, Washington 109, Indiana 109, Nebraska 109, Texas Tech 107, Kansas State 106, Ohio State 105 (11th in B1G)

VS Top 10 teams in OOC games, there are 37 teams that have played MORE top 10 teams than has OSU:
Notre Dame 48, Syracuse 32, Florida State 29, Miami*(Florida) 25, USC 19, Florida 19, Georgia Tech 18, Pittsburgh 16, Virginia Tech 14, Clemson 13, Washington 13, South Carolina 12, Louisville 12, Texas 11, Stanford 11, Michigan 11, Oregon 10, Michigan State 10, Purdue 9, Tennessee 9, Maryland 9, Arizona State 9, Louisiana State 9, Colorado 8, Penn State 8, Virginia 8, Boston College 8, West Virginia 8, UCLA 8, Texas Christian 8, Oregon State 8, Texas A&M 8, North Carolina 8, Arizona 7, Iowa State 7, Iowa 7, Auburn 7, Ohio State 6 (7th in B1G)

VS Top 10 teams in the regular season games, there are 41 teams that have played MORE top 10 teams than has OSU:
Tennessee 79, Florida 78, Auburn 75, Arkansas 70, Louisiana State 70, South Carolina 64, Vanderbilt 61, Michigan State 61, Mississippi State 61, Michigan 60, Kentucky 60, Syracuse 59, Indiana 59, Missouri 59, Georgia 58, Purdue 56, Texas A&M 55, Iowa State 54, Colorado 54, Maryland 54, Mississippi 54, Oklahoma State 53, Penn State 52, Kansas 51, Alabama 51, Texas Tech 51, USC 51, Stanford 50, Texas 50, Washington 50, Minnesota 49, Kansas State 49, Arizona 49, Illinois 48, Baylor 48, Iowa 48, Nebraska 48, Notre Dame 48, Northwestern 47, Georgia Tech 45, Oregon State 45, Ohio State 44 (12th in B1G)
VS Top 5 teams in OOC games, there are 27 teams that have played MORE top 5 teams than has OSU:
Notre Dame 28, Florida State 18, Miami*(Florida) 17, Florida 15, USC 10, Virginia Tech 10, Georgia Tech 9, Washington 9, Michigan 8, Texas 8, South Carolina 8, Texas A&M 7, Pittsburgh 7, Tennessee 6, Syracuse 6, Michigan State 6, Auburn 6, Arizona 6, Stanford 5, Oregon 5, West Virginia 5, Oklahoma State 5, Arkansas 5, Colorado 5, Penn State 5, Clemson 5, Boston College 5, Ohio State 4 (4th in B1G)
My favorite:

VS Top 5 teams in the regular season games, there are 59 teams that have played MORE top 5 teams than has OSU:
Tennessee 48, Florida 46, Auburn 45, Arkansas 42, Louisiana State 38, South Carolina 37, Mississippi State 35, Texas A&M 35, Vanderbilt 33, Mississippi 33, Kentucky 31, Georgia 31, Oklahoma State 31, Missouri 31, Alabama 30, Michigan 29, Arizona 29, Colorado 29, Indiana 28, California 28, Michigan State 28, Kansas 28, Penn State 28, Washington 28, Notre Dame 28, Stanford 28, Washington State 26, Georgia Tech 26, Kansas State 26, Texas Tech 25, Oregon State 25, USC 25, Florida State 25, Texas 24, Maryland 23, Oregon 23, Miami*(Florida) 23, UCLA 23, Northwestern 22, Syracuse 22, Arizona State 22, Nebraska 22, Wake Forest 21, Oklahoma 21, Iowa 21, Baylor 21, Purdue 20, Illinois 20, Wisconsin 20, Rutgers 20, Iowa State 20, Boston College 20, Minnesota 19, West Virginia 19, Clemson 19, Pittsburgh 18, North Carolina State 18, Virginia Tech 18, North Carolina 16, Ohio State 15 (14th in B1G) What a joke!!!
 
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