Random FF Thoughts

[averagejoe]

Monkey, excellent extra research! Nice.

 

[wilwhite]

Don't lose heart, Monkey! Forget first round and just look at WRs who went in the first 8:

2013 Tavon Austin: 40/418/4
2012 Blackmon: 64/865/5
2011 AJ Green: 65/1057/7
2011 Julio Jones: 54/959/8
2009: DHB: 9/124/1

That looks a lot better. Except for DHB. And we all know that the Raiders had no idea how to draft (though they seem to be getting better).

 

[averagejoe]

Is it me, or does Peyton look way too happy in this image?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Of those 4, Cooks is the only one I would bet on to exceed those averages in year one.

Why cooks?? Benjamin and Watkins have by far the best situation, as they are the number ones there... Buffalo, doesnt have a great TE, but is considered a running team... Carolinas best runner is the QB... But both QBs throw a good amount...

I would make the bet that Watkins and Benjamin get the most amount of looks out of any rookie WRs... Cant predict TDs, but i would be surprised if they dont have the most catches of all rookies...

Cooks, is the WR3 for a team that has the best TE in football... I just dont see the opportunity!!!

 

[TREFF]

Because Cooks is the one who is on a team that throws the most, and outside of the TE, there isn't a consistent receiving threat. One could argue Colston, but anyone who has owned him knows he's as inconsistent as it gets. That's my reasoning.

 

[averagejoe]

I may have to side with Milk on this one. With Graham in NO, I don't see the Saints WR (i.e. Cooks) getting as many targets. That said:

BUF WR 2013 - 296 targets. 247 fantasy points. 11 TD.
NO WR 2013 - 257 targets. 330 fantasy points. 14 TD.

 

[TREFF]

I may have to side with Milk on this one. With Graham in NO, I don't see the Saints WR (i.e. Cooks) getting as many targets. That said:

BUF WR 2013 - 296 targets. 247 fantasy points. 11 TD.
NO WR 2013 - 257 targets. 330 fantasy points. 14 TD.

Less targets, better results. . That's the value of an elite QB vs the sub par revolving door the Bills had.

To be clear, there's not one single rookie WR I have on my "must have" list, but Cooks is my pick to lead rookies in fantasy scoring.

 

[wilwhite]

No WR in Carolina, JAX, KC, St. Louis, Buffalo or the Jets surpassed 100 FF pts last year, so opportunity to be the #1 WR on a crappy team doesn't mean much. Jets and Buffalo couldn't even get to 80. Boykin, Douglas and Stills were better.

 

[TREFF]

No WR in Carolina, JAX, KC, St. Louis, Buffalo or the Jets surpassed 100 FF pts last year, so opportunity to be the #1 WR on a crappy team doesn't mean much. Jets and Buffalo couldn't even get to 80. Boykin, Douglas and Stills were better.

Isn't that just sad? ? I mean that's Bowe, Steve Smith, Cecil Shorts and Stevie Johnson.. Most of whom are generally considered adequate fantasy options.

 

[Barilko]

Look whats Cooking in the Brees....im in....

 

[SmokingMonkey]

wasn't sure where to put this, but this could turn out to be a HUGE blow to the Ravens' D:

whole article:
Ravens cornerback Jimmy Smith arrested, charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct - baltimoresun.com

rotoworld blurb:
Ravens CB Jimmy Smith was arrested for disorderly conduct Saturday night.
Police responded to a call about an unconscious woman in a bathroom at a bar, and Smith was cited for failure to obey a lawful order of a police officer. Smith was reportedly trying to assist the woman but wouldn't move away from her after police repeatedly asked him to do so. Smith was released from custody at 11:15 PM Saturday night and faces a misdemeanor charge. He's the fifth Raven to be arrested since last season ended. Off-field issues led to Smith falling to the 27th pick in the 2011 draft. Smith will celebrate his 26th birthday later this month.
Source: Baltimore Sun Jul 13 - 10:10 AM

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Did Darren Sharper give the Ravens some consulting advice at any point in the season last year?

what's the deal with these guys and unconscious women?!?!?

Looks like Smith is going to be getting married soon too!

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

The tidbit on Andrew luck is misleading. Last year he could've been the second best fantasy QB if his offensive coordinator got his head out of his ass. The guy is a moron who only calls for plays where luck passes it over 10 yards when the colts were behind.

 

[TKOSpikes]

A really random thought...

Last year I picked C.J. Spiller with my first pick.... and I was a one point loss away from making the playoffs.

Do we spend too much time on the top of the order? If we dissected the middle rounds more than the "top 10", wouldn't we be much better off?

(I realize waivers/trades are the bigger reason, but that's a different animal)

 

[averagejoe]

Do we spend too much time on the top of the order? If we dissected the middle rounds more than the "top 10", wouldn't we be much better off?

Ironic that you mention this. I updated my personal spreadsheet with various rankings on it last night, and (using FantasyPros' rankings) the first 30 or 35 overall players basically had very little movement. But the next 100+ had some significant changes.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Very interesting indeed. Although I assume it would be quite difficult gathering debates on players so close to one another in perception. I guess it really comes down to personal preference at that point... I wonder though, taking a look at enough, would there be any diamonds in the rough, say, after the "bold predictions" and the "sleepers of the year"... you know, the guys you "put up with" or "get stuck with"...

maybe I'm just rambling...

 

[TK21775]

NFL offering pay for play fantasy football but just sued New Jersey to stop gambling on games:

NFL launches pay-to-play fantasy leagues

 

[SmokingMonkey]

NFL offering pay for play fantasy football but just sued New Jersey to stop gambling on games:

NFL launches pay-to-play fantasy leagues

That's a bit misleading TK.
You can win authentic NFL gear (some of it autographed by a mysterious NFL star - they don't say who on the webpage that I could tell) for winning those pay leagues, you don't win any actual cash.

So in essence, you are buying a raffle ticket to win some swag just as much as you are 'gambling' in those leagues. Great idea by them, and I might consider joining one of those leagues for a shot at a signed jersey or ball. Lost one of my pay leagues this year, commish disbanded the league due to lack of interest, I think.

 

[TK21775]

Sure it's gear but autographs, game used balls, etc you can't go and turn around selling these on ebay or such? Just think it opens up a door that the NFL doesn't want opened; they want to dip into the $70 billion industry that's fantasy football but I think this leads support to the states that want to allow gambling.

Not saying it's a bad idea, in my state Iowa they won't allow it because pay for play sites such as this and fan duel are constituted as gambling or that's what I've been told when I tried signing up for sites such as this

 

[wilwhite]

TKO - you're not giving the full picture here.

You took Spiller in the first, DMC in the second, and Bradshaw in the fifth.

However, you did draft two top-10 RBs with Lacy in the fourth and FJAX in the 8th.

One way to look at that result is to say you were saved by the "load up on RBs" approach, since you took five in your first eight picks and two panned out, a late QB was good enough, and you cobbled together a decent receiving corps to end up with an above-average squad. (Knowing the risks with DMC - and then Bradshaw - may have pushed you into this approach once you drafted them - but it also saved you from Spiller.)

Another way to look at it is that your rankings on Spiller and FJAX were off, and you got lucky that FJAX was still there for you in the eighth.