1) tSEC
2) Eye test
3) 4 games of Cupcake OOC, with one always in Nov
2) Eye test
3) 4 games of Cupcake OOC, with one always in Nov
As soon as a G5 plays a legit SoS and actually wins, let us know.Rule 1 basically is a fuckoff to G5 teams. That would never technically be a rule. Should be a rule regarding SoS. If a UCF or Houston can go unbeaten with a legit SoS, then why hold them back?
The only thing we know for sure so far is you can't lose twice .
Plenty if teams have played shitty ooc and made the playoffs, a team made it after getting blown out by .500 team and multiple teams have made it without winning their conference
Pretty much the only certainties so far are
- be a P5 team
- don't lose more than once
After that the narrative changes based on what teams are left. Some years it's best win, others it's best loss , others it's the eye test. Every year it's bullshit .
Losing by 14 at home to a 6-6 team is not any better than losing by 28 on the road to a 6-6 team imo. Even if you think it is it's only marginally bettertOSU was not blown out by VT. The game was 28-21 late in the 4th when VT scored a defensive TD.
Losing by 14 at home to a 6-6 team is not any better than losing by 28 on the road to a 6-6 team imo. Even if you think it is it's only marginally better
Losing a night game at home by double digits to a 6-6 team is getting blown out man. I don't care how the score ends up where it does .The final score is all that mattersI didn’t reference anything as “better”, only that the loss to VT was not a blowout. tOSU still had a chance to tie in the final minutes.
But if we ARE comparing, the Purdue loss was a LOT worse. They never were closer than 15 in the 4th. And in the VT loss, they had an untested freshman QB making his second start after replacing the injured starter.
Losing a night game at home by double digits to a 6-6 team is getting blown out man. I don't care how the score ends up where it does .The final score is all that matters
I really don't know why everyone assumes that G5 teams getting their own playoff would have to mean the end of cross games between them and the P5. To me it could work if they still had an agreement in place for those added games.
So what's your definition? We have heard "don't get blown out " a lot over the last 2 years yet a "blowout " is not a defined term . UGA lost by 20 this year yet if they'd beaten Bama they would've been in correct ?That’s your definition of “blowout”. Most would disagree. No one would argue that the Purdue loss was anything but a blowout.
Rule 1 basically is a fuckoff to G5 teams. That would never technically be a rule. Should be a rule regarding SoS. If a UCF or Houston can go unbeaten with a legit SoS, then why hold them back?
So what's your definition? We have heard "don't get blown out " a lot over the last 2 years yet a "blowout " is not a defined term . UGA lost by 20 this year yet if they'd beaten Bama they would've been in correct ?
This is an example if narrative change plain and simple .
Yeah I'm talking the committee . So what's your response to my UGA comment ? Should they have been disqualified for losing by 20 even if they'd beaten Bama? If not then why ?My narrative hasn’t changed at all. If you mean the Committee’s narrative, you certainly can argue it’s changed.
In any event, 55-24 and 49-20 are blowouts any way you slice them. A game in which the losing team was in possession with a chance to tie or win only to suffer a pick 6 is not a blowout. Now had the game been 35-7 with tOSU scoring a couple of late cosmetic TDs to make it 35-21, I’d be fine with calling that a blowout.
Every 14-point loss isn’t the same.
Yeah I'm talking the committee . So what's your response to my UGA comment ? Should they have been disqualified for losing by 20 even if they'd beaten Bama? If not then why ?
It's not about OSU. I don't care what team you're talking about . I'm just attempting to discern what people consider as a disqualifying blowout . So far we know you don't think it's a 14 point home loss to a 6-6 team or a 20 point road loss to a 9-3 team but you do think it's a 29 point road loss to a 6-6 team. So where's your line ?You may want to read this carefully. When certain fans cry and whine about their team being left out, a 29-point loss to a 6-6 team is a relevant piece of data. Similarly, UGA did NOT make the CFP, and many pundits referenced the LSU loss as the primary reason why. That’s all OTHER people and their thoughts.
Had UGA beaten Bama, their entire resume would’ve been compared to the other entire resumes. Their 20-point loss against a 9-3 team certainly would look better than a 29-point loss to a 6-6 team, but neither would be an “asset”. However, UGA likely would’ve gotten the nod over tOSU, and the point about the Purdue loss would still stand with no inconsistency.
As for MY thoughts on it, a 1-loss UGA that just beat 12-0 Bama would be in over a 1-loss tOSU that just beat NW. The 2 blowout losses would cancel out. At that point, it would be Bama, OU, and tOSU fighting for the fourth slot. If Bama’s loss to UGA was close, it would come down to Bama and OU.
Any way you look at it, tOSU losing by 29 to a 6-6 Purdue cost them their shot. Others can vigorously debate whether that’s a good thing, but I’m not losing sleep
over it.
Hard to do. The Committee would have to adopt a formula. Either way, it's not right to assume a P5 team has a better schedule than G5 simply because they're in a P5 conference.Define legit SOS.
As soon as a G5 plays a legit SoS and actually wins, let us know.
Team Rec S&P+ Rk SOS Rk Resume S&P+ Rk
Alabama 13-0 29.7 1 83.4% 17 11.8 1
Clemson 13-0 27.9 2 90.1% 76 5.8 2
Georgia 11-2 25.9 3 82.5% 11 1.0 3
Michigan 10-2 21.3 5 84.9% 28 -1.9 4
Mississippi State 8-4 15.6 12 83.1% 15 -4.2 5
Central Florida 12-0 19.6 8 90.7% 83 -4.9 6
Ohio State 12-1 19.8 7 88.0% 55 -5.9 7
Missouri 8-4 14.4 16 80.7% 5 -5.9 8
Oklahoma 12-1 22.1 4 89.3% 68 -6.0 9
Notre Dame 12-0 20.6 6 88.8% 61 -7.2 10
Sagrin's SoS after Conference Championships
Oklahoma 32
Notre Dame 43
Alabama 45
Clemson 48
Wisconsin 57
Oregon 62
Syracuse 63
BYU 65
Virginia 66
Boise 68
NC State 69
Northern Illinois 73
Fresno State 77
Temple 78
UCF 89
2018 Resume S&P+ rankings after 14 weeks
Code:Team Rec S&P+ Rk SOS Rk Resume S&P+ Rk Alabama 13-0 29.7 1 83.4% 17 11.8 1 Clemson 13-0 27.9 2 90.1% 76 5.8 2 Georgia 11-2 25.9 3 82.5% 11 1.0 3 Michigan 10-2 21.3 5 84.9% 28 -1.9 4 Mississippi State 8-4 15.6 12 83.1% 15 -4.2 5 Central Florida 12-0 19.6 8 90.7% 83 -4.9 6 Ohio State 12-1 19.8 7 88.0% 55 -5.9 7 Missouri 8-4 14.4 16 80.7% 5 -5.9 8 Oklahoma 12-1 22.1 4 89.3% 68 -6.0 9 Notre Dame 12-0 20.6 6 88.8% 61 -7.2 10
The gap is closing. It will shrink even more once the Playoff expands and P5 schedules get weaker as the race to 10 wins commences.