politics thread

[Stymietee]

Three biggest Democrat Hoaxes in our lifetime:


1) Judge Kavanaugh groped Christine Ford


2) Trump colluded with Russians to beat Hillary


3) Global Warming

Nice list the first one is whimsical, the second happens to be true with the proviso that collusion isn't a crime and the third is mistitled. Global warming is the hook for suckers, climate change is real proven science. That said, let me take a crack at this biggest hoax in our lifetimes thing from the other side.

Three of the bigger Republican hoaxes in our lifetime:

1. Convincing poor Euro-Americans that they were middle class, while convincing middle class Euro-Americans that they belonged to the wealthier class, then convincing all of them that all of their issues came form people who didn't look like them in order to get them to vote against their own best interest.

2. Duped the general public into believing that the World Trade Center fell because of the efforts of Iraqi's and Iranians. This ends up costing to date, thousands of lives and billions of dollars in a hunt for weapons of mass destruction while the real perpetrators, the Saudi's walked free.

3. Created an atmosphere in which crack cocaine could be introduced into poor African American neighborhoods which set the groundwork for the population explosion in the PIC (prison industrial complex). A make work program that still feeds upon criminalizing the desperation that comes with being poor. (see: war on drugs)

Federal Prison Population Spiked 790 Percent Since 1980
thinkprogress.org/federal-prison-population-spiked-790-percent-since-1980-7d0681772584/

What Has Caused an Increase in Prison Populations ...
classroom.synonym.com/caused-increase-prison-populations-7898.html

 

[Stymietee]

Let’s see...Democratic Party is the party of freebies. These people vote democrat. Freebies is what their country believed in prior to them fleeing.

Wrong! Both parties spend like bandits when in power the only difference between them is who gets the freebies. C'mon man let's at least be honest about this BS that they are feeding the masses!

 

[Stymietee]

Nope...it is the taking of a life. And as I showed you, fetus is the first stage of human development. Things that are not living, don’t develop.

What an interesting argument! So to quote you, "it is the taking of a life" correct? Well, isn't this true with respect to the meat that people eat? Aren't those lives too? The first stage of human development as you've described it isn't human at all, just one stage in getting to the endpoint. No more than a developing cow isn't a cow or a developing fetus isn't a man/woman. "Human" defined is clearly distinguished from "man/woman" and has become interchangeable through lazy, ignorant applications. "Human life" on the other hand is medically defined as having those traits consistent with characteristics of a fully developed being. This definition is constantly being challenged by people of faith, who often confuse science with belief.

 

[Stymietee]

OK upon further review I stand corrected, Trump did say mountains etc will secure part of the border. But that does not change the fact that he wants the entire border sealed off and the Dems do not. It also does not change the fact that he could not get a very small portion of the funding passed, there is no chance, zero, that he will get the entire wall budget passed.

The border wall was completed in 2010, all that's required are upgrades where necessary. Had he been honest about it, everything required was already set to get near unanimous consent.

 

[Stymietee]

if I was an advisor for one of the 4000 candidates running for the democratic nomination I would tell him or her this. Get out there and denounce the un-American and thoughtless comments made by the 3 idiot chicks that are continually making headlines by their... well,, un-american comments. Stand up to them. The democratic public, though in bed with the diverse script of a new america are still.. Americans.

Denounce the PC mumble jumble of idiot offenses and tell the people a better America is not one of overload tactics and extreme and outrageous claims. Inform change will be made to unify all but it will not be done with the monstrous attacks we hear everyday on our american history. Campaign with the notion that america will not be thrown into socialism but with a gradual change of policy to better all americans... because again... your voters are still decent americans and not the rowdy and attacking crowd that FOX portrays.

I would tell this person to stand up against the radical change that is the talking points of their party. Youll be attacked within but the public will love ya. In a way its what Trump himself did against the 4000 other candidates. He didnt bow when the pressure came. He stood with his beliefs and the public fell in love with the thought of a leader who wouldnt cave. IMO the candidate that breaks away from the radical left extremisms will be the fan favorite.

Now I'm curious! Will Trump do the same or does he get an exemption from doing these same things?

 

[Sharkinva]

Let’s see...Democratic Party is the party of freebies. These people vote democrat. Freebies is what their country believed in prior to them fleeing.

YOu say this when Trump has recently GIVEN $12B to Farmers and just requested what another $20B to yet again subsidize them?? Its ok when its GOP welfare though right??

 

[Stymietee]

Biden is an artifact to a new and rising america. Perhaps this will weigh more than his creepiness.

Joe Biden Born: Nov 20, 1942 (age 76)

Donald Trump Born: Born: Jun 14, 1946 (age 72)

 

[Stymietee]

And neither are RIGHTS.

Yes they did. They chose to have sex, which ended in pregnancy and a human life. I agree it wasn’t forced on them, in nearly all cases, but that wasn’t your argument. You said the fetus wouldn’t be there without the mother’s body...and neither would the 50 year old. Even in the cases where people do not take responsibility, does that make that life less valuable? Is a foster child less valuable from a moral perspective?

I have backed the idea of shooting people because they are invading the nation. I would prefer they stay home. It has nothing to do with convenience. The person illegally entering the country being capable of taking care of themselves is not relevant. The fact is they are breaking our laws. The fact is, they would be safer staying at home. If, them staying at home would reduce the thousands that die may making the trek, the tens of thousands raped, and the tens of thousands children being trafficked, then yes, killing a couple would be worth it.

Feel free to not have a child...don’t feel free to murder them. Let’s get to my actual stance.

I want to be clear on something. Is your argument based upon the "value" of a life? If so, who get's to set such a value? Are you speaking of "moral" values or actual/tangible value?

 

[j_y19]

It will be so entertaining to watch the people who support a man with the behavior of Donald Trump get on a high horse about some hugs or whatever from Joe Biden. The same group that said not to believe those accusing the likes of Roy Moore will now suddenly take accusers word as gospel when it's the Dem who is accused. But I've come to expect this sort of behavior from The Cult, it will be awesome to witness.

Trump won’t have to do it. The other dem candidates will do it for him. The steel cage death match is about to begin. Make some popcorn.

 

[Stymietee]

Nobody can be denied life, liberty, and property without DUE PROCESS. This is how you can be pro-life and for the death penalty. One is innocent...the other guilty.

Except conservatives are far more charitable than liberals.

 

[Sharkinva]

I was going to mention the Mega Churches appreciate his generosity.. but your response was better

 

[gkekoa]

I want to be clear on something. Is your argument based upon the "value" of a life? If so, who get's to set such a value? Are you speaking of "moral" values or actual/tangible value?

I am speaking of value to the human race. There is no future on life support, typically. There is usually value in a fetus.

 

[Sharkinva]

I am speaking of value to the human race. There is no future on life support, typically. There is usually value in a fetus.

I will agree there MIGHT be potential in a fetus... but unless you are a mother planning to hit someone up for that DNA tax, there is zero value in a fetus outside of that it might hold to the host, or the potential father and family should said fetus survive to become a human.

 

[Stymietee]

I am speaking of value to the human race. There is no future on life support, typically. There is usually value in a fetus.

All current life is valuable until it no longer exists. There is no value to the human race with respect to a fetus, just potential value, or potential detriment.

 

[gkekoa]

YOu say this when Trump has recently GIVEN $12B to Farmers and just requested what another $20B to yet again subsidize them?? Its ok when its GOP welfare though right??

Farmers work for it and it is part of the negotiation. Oh...and I am against subsidies. This also isn’t welfare.

 

[Sharkinva]

Farmers work for it and it is part of the negotiation. Oh...and I am against subsidies. This also isn’t welfare.

You are right, its a hand out to buy their loyalty after he screwed them with his tariffs plan.

 

[Stymietee]

In a country where almost everyone else has to pay their fair share of taxes, tax cuts for corporations is certainly welfare!

 

[Sharkinva]

In a country where almost everyone else has to pay their fair share of taxes, tax cuts for corporations is certainly welfare!

All I know is, when I was planning a team building event, I was told I could not have my family catering business do the food. Yet we have a President spending millions in tax payer money on his weekend trips to his own golf resort.. and his conservative base is mumm as fuck.

 

[skinsdad62]

Trump won’t have to do it. The other dem candidates will do it for him. The steel cage death match is about to begin. Make some popcorn.

Yeah those videos don’t show shit do they ? And again if you held that position when kavanaugh or judge Moore were going threw it you damn sure didn’t say anything about it while overlooking da nang dick

 

[Stymietee]

All I know is, when I was planning a team building event, I was told I could not have my family catering business do the food. Yet we have a President spending millions in tax payer money on his weekend trips to his own golf resort.. and his conservative base is mumm as fuck.

Yeah, then there's this...

Trump took out new 30-year mortgage in 2018 worth over $5 ...
www.politicususa.com/2019/05/16/trump-took-out-new-30-year-mortgage-in-2018...