politics thread

[reptec101]

Now I'm curious! Will Trump do the same or does he get an exemption from doing these same things?

These are talking points for the democratic party. Trump just needs to keep Obamas economy on the rise or just stay keep it steady. Imo the dems wont have a prayer in beating him if things stay as the world stands today.

 

[Sharkinva]

Yeah, then there's this...

Trump took out new 30-year mortgage in 2018 worth over $5 ...
www.politicususa.com/2019/05/16/trump-took-out-new-30-year-mortgage-in-2018...

I wonder if he over valued it to get the loan, then will under value it come tax time.

Because he has never done that.

 

[reptec101]

Joe Biden Born: Nov 20, 1942 (age 76)

Donald Trump Born: Born: Jun 14, 1946 (age 72)

A rising America in the democratic party views. Hes a dinosaur. He wont win the nomination. Sanders has a better chance and hes a fossel

 

[Stymietee]

I wonder if he over valued it to get the loan, then will under value it come tax time.

Because he has never done that.

Tax fraud anyone? Oh yeah, he gets a pass for this too, because of...well...those appointments to judgeships that have no bearing on religious leanings!

 

[Stymietee]

A rising America in the democratic party views. Hes a dinosaur. He wont win the nomination. Sanders has a better chance and hes a fossel

Then if fossil age is key, a younger person is likely to win on the Dem. side and not only defeat Biden but also that other old fart, Trump!

Old farts unite dammit!! (I'm one of them!)

 

[Sharkinva]

Tax fraud anyone? Oh yeah, he gets a pass for this too, because of...well...those appointments to judgeships that have no bearing on religious leanings!

Well you know how they roll

 

[Sharkinva]

Then if fossil age is key, a younger person is likely to win on the Dem. side and not only defeat Biden but also that other old fart, Trump!

IM pulling for Mayor Pete with a VP of Kamala Harris, and if that happens and they win

 

[gkekoa]

What an interesting argument! So to quote you, "it is the taking of a life" correct? Well, isn't this true with respect to the meat that people eat? Aren't those lives too? The first stage of human development as you've described it isn't human at all, just one stage in getting to the endpoint. No more than a developing cow isn't a cow or a developing fetus isn't a man/woman. "Human" defined is clearly distinguished from "man/woman" and has become interchangeable through lazy, ignorant applications. "Human life" on the other hand is medically defined as having those traits consistent with characteristics of a fully developed being. This definition is constantly being challenged by people of faith, who often confuse science with belief.

Sure. Animals are life but that wasn’t my argument in full now was it?

Human being defined

1. a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.
   
   Or child is kind of key. According to your definition, a 17 year old isn’t a human being. Technically, a 25 year old isn’t a human being according to you because there is still development occurring. So to you I say bullshit.
   
   Do you agree that a fetus is of the species homo sapien?

 

[Sharkinva]

Sure. Animals are life but that wasn’t my argument in full now was it?

Human being defined

1. a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.
   
   Or child is kind of key. According to your definition, a 17 year old isn’t a human being. Technically, a 25 year old isn’t a human being according to you because there is still development occurring. So to you I say bullshit.
   
   Do you agree that a fetus is of the species homo sapien?

You have given me a brilliant idea for a bumper sicker that will solve all of this and will 99% prevent the potential destruction of fetus' while still allowing people to be well... people

 

[Stymietee]

Sure. Animals are life but that wasn’t my argument in full now was it?

Human being defined

1. a man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.
   
   Or child is kind of key. According to your definition, a 17 year old isn’t a human being. Technically, a 25 year old isn’t a human being according to you because there is still development occurring. So to you I say bullshit.
   
   Do you agree that a fetus is of the species homo sapien?

You said and I quote..."taking of a life"

Correct, now let's see a fetus speak, stand upright and express any sort of superior mental capacity. BTW; a 17 year old can do all of these things,the same is true of a child and a 25 year old. In fact one of the first things that infants do is cry, (communicate) attempt to see and express their own sexuality.

No, homo sapiens by definition is a man/woman,individual, living soul and the like, humankind or more accurately a kind of human, with "human" being the key. Fetuses aren't human by definition therefore, fail to qualify.

 

[Stymietee]

These are talking points for the democratic party. Trump just needs to keep Obamas economy on the rise or just stay keep it steady. Imo the dems wont have a prayer in beating him if things stay as the world stands today.

Let's be clear...it's not Obama's economy, neither is it Trumps. They just happen to be credited with their contribution to a process that's been in place since this country was reorganized. He's not a very bright guy, however, I do give him credit for recognizing and not interfering with an economic arc trending in the right way. I do hate those tax cuts even though I personally gained from them. I needed I can explain why.

You could be right about Trump's ability to become a 2 term prez, if his 1st term was a typical one. Since it hasn't been, issues like the court's current right bend, his penchant to represent the country as ONLY a true asshole could, and this current attempt to start a war with Iran for the benefit of an Israeli move there could change his narrow 2016 win into a 2020 loss.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Trump won’t have to do it. The other dem candidates will do it for him. The steel cage death match is about to begin. Make some popcorn.

That's just politics and won't be any different than when the GOP candidates went after Trump who had a ton more baggage. Biden will win the nomination and the general I firmly believe, he would have won in 2016 if he had run. Worst thing to happen to this country IMO is Joe Biden's son died which took him out of the running.

 

[gkekoa]

You said and I quote..."taking of a life"

Correct, now let's see a fetus speak, stand upright and express any sort of superior mental capacity. BTW; a 17 year old can do all of these things,the same is true of a child and a 25 year old. In fact one of the first things that infants do is cry, (communicate) attempt to see and express their own sexuality.

No, homo sapiens by definition is a man/woman,individual, living soul and the like, humankind or more accurately a kind of human, with "human" being the key. Fetuses aren't human by definition therefore, fail to qualify.

I did put that but you have to read more than a mere blurb. When I am speaking of humans, I figured you would know, and I wouldn’t have to spell out, the context in which I am n again, you don’t believe in context.

This isn’t what you said. You said developing. A 17 year old is still developing...there is no context there. You are either a developing, developed, or dying human.

You can claim definitions to be whatever you want. You can also be wrong as much as you want. All living organisms on the face of the planet fall into specific categories in science. A fetus is a Homo Sapien...unless you can show me it isn’t scientifically.

 

[j_y19]

Yeah those videos don’t show shit do they ? And again if you held that position when kavanaugh or judge Moore were going threw it you damn sure didn’t say anything about it while overlooking da nang dick

Huh?

 

[j_y19]

That's just politics and won't be any different than when the GOP candidates went after Trump who had a ton more baggage. Biden will win the nomination and the general I firmly believe, he would have won in 2016 if he had run. Worst thing to happen to this country IMO is Joe Biden's son died which took him out of the running.

That's the thing. The other GOP candidates didn't go after Trump. They never laid a glove on him. Which still baffles me.

I guess they were consumed with defending themselves from the Trump onslaught he brought on them. Which is what he will do to the Dem candidate. Its hard to punch when you are backing up.

 

[Skins2021]

How do you let yourself post something like this without actually checking the damn numbers??

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

Trump approval at 51%, winning millennials, trusted more than Democrats on economy

POLL: Trump’s Approval Numbers Top Obama’s During Same Point In His First Term

President Trump & Gallup -- Approval Rating Ticks Up to New High of 46 Percent | National Review

Rasmussen polls

yeah... Trump has a higher approval rating than Obama did at this point in his presidency.... an incredibly low bar I understand.

Still believe when its all said and done and we have moved on from PC culture that Obama will be unanimously viewed as the worst modern day president of all time and this 1:2 punch of Obama > Trump will go down in history as a really really shitty run

 

[chillerdab]

The abortion debate is absolutely this simple:

Assholes on the right feel like they have the right to dictate to everybody their personal beliefs on this particular subject, but refuse to recognize that:

a) they are hypocritically violating any number of their own standard issue talking points (less government intervention, more personal choice), and
b) when the situation is reversed on any other number of positions (climate change, 2A, tax cuts, welfare, capital punishment, etc.) they absolutely cannot hear another point of view - let alone the passing of bullshit laws to overturn settled precedent.

The fuckwads who passed that Talibama law are all old white men, who are clearly the least capable demographic of understanding the impact of abortion of anybody in the state they “govern.”

Its an insult to humanity that the morons on the right even feel like they have to right to dictate what women should do with their bodies.

 

[chillerdab]

The independent news source says that DumbDumb is still significantly below 50% and the right wing crazypeople say he’s polling otherwise?

Shocker.

 

[reptec101]

Dude forget the polls... independent or otherwise... every polling place has different polling numbers. They're never exact.,,, thus never worthy, and most time biased. Remember how Hillary was kicking ass according to the polls. Nuff said.