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And they have every right to vote. So tell me. What are they voting for as residents of a territory with no electoral votes? Nobody is depriving them the right to vote. They just have nothing to vote for in the POTUS election. Like I said, they get to vote in other federal elections because they have a legal say.


WTF????????
 

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we should organize a superbowl party every year ...

lots of food and all you can drinks ...

this year i nominate it be at @gkekoa house
 

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we should organize a superbowl party every year ...

lots of food and all you can drinks ...

this year i nominate it be at @gkekoa house


Bet he is a really good dude, disinformed, but good dude nonetheless. I'd come, just as long as he doesn't say to me....."Hey Sty, we'd love to have you for dinner!" :D
 

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So shoplifting food to feed your KIDS now makes you a menace to society??

No but multiple convictions of theft and committing your next offense within a month of release does. At least that is what is written in the court documents.

Like I said, I question the authenticity of her statement because if she didn't have a place to stay, her kids would not be released to her.
 

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That's the fall back, isn't it, don't like it there? move, right? Is that really in line with the supposed spirit of this country? It is basically saying, let's be fair here and not there. Is that really what you want to defend?

If so, let's do this.......Let's stop paying all of those states that receive more federal dollars than they pay into the federal coffers, then if and when they fail or complain about that, we'll just tell them....Hey, assholes, move to a state that that has been supporting your asses for all of these years.


BTW: Churches are exempt from federal taxes too, what's your point? they vote, in fact due to a very recent SC ruling they get two votes if they incorporate. (RE: Corporations are people too)

Sty...if you continue to change my words to meet your narrative, this is done.

Puerto Ricans can vote in federal elections. They can't vote in elections with no standing. As a resident of PR, a person can't vote in the selection of POTUS because PR has no electoral votes because they are not a state or D.C. Guess what. If I move to PR and become a resident, I no longer can vote in the election of the POTUS. PR can vote in primaries though...so yes, they do get to vote in federal elections.

So where would they move? Every state in the union gets more back than they put in. I am all for cutting federal spending...so let's do it.

Churches are churches are not for profit organizations, much like the NAACP. Neither pays taxes. Explain your last statement because churches cannot vote.
 

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Arent we trying to build a wall to prevent people from doing just that?? Oh right, those are MEXICAN Mexicans, Puerto Rican Mexicans can come here, and just be called Mexicans. :thumb:

Shark...you are better than this. We are building a wall between two sovereign nations. Shame on us. Maybe you would call them Mexicans...I would call them Americans if they are American citizens. You must be a racist :thumb:.
 

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The interesting thing is........I'm not ready to give up on him because I believe that the country simply cannot afford to divide willingly or unwittingly over racism and racist ideals. It (racism) will lead of this nation's total destruction from within. We are already seeing how outside forces have used social media to influence the election of a nationalist or to be fair, someone with nationalistic ideals by energizing then inflaming those very same things.

Again...show me the racism. Prove to me that laws are not enforced equally among its citizens. Prove to me the government doesn't want a specific part of the population to succeed and show me he laws that are created to ensure a particular population falls.

Show me the cop, or any man, who unquestionably kills a man without cause and gets away with it.

I am not a globalist. I believe in sovereignty of a nation. Don't you?
 

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Exactly......and why? because they would more than likely vote blue state....or less politely put, against those who are hell bent to "Make 1940-50's America Great again"

Yep...Fuck those democrats. They enslaved black people and voted against your civil rights. Now they have deceived you into believing their way is right and have 95% of the black vote. Isn't it funny how every "black area" in this country is run by liberals, has been for fifty years, and everyone of those places are failing. I agree...fuck democrats...to be less polite.
 

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Bet he is a really good dude, disinformed, but good dude nonetheless. I'd come, just as long as he doesn't say to me....."Hey Sty, we'd love to have you for dinner!" :D

Disinformed? I have refuted everything you have said with information and facts. You are the one not backing up your statements.
 

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Shark...you are better than this. We are building a wall between two sovereign nations. Shame on us. Maybe you would call them Mexicans...I would call them Americans if they are American citizens. You must be a racist :thumb:.


Nah, IM just a realist. And I realize from experience that when "Americans" meet some one of Latin/Hispanic heritage, its assumed they or their parents were from Mexico until otherwise corrected. Most Americans who dont know any one from Puerto Rico assume its some where in Mexico or south America and dont ever realize these are American Citizens.

But yea we need that wall to prevent the hostile invasion from Mexico. After all at a rate of 200K per year, in about 500 years if us Americans stopped breeding right this second.. my god they will out number us. :thumb:
 

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Do you need me to break it down further? Better yet, let me ask, what state should Puerto Rican's be able to vote for electoral delegates being they are not residents of a state?


From a Geographical standpoint, add them to the Florida or Texas voter roles. Yes I know that risks skewing these two historically Red States. But IM becoming of the opinion that the electoral college needs to be done with. Use the popular vote which would actually allow a TRUE independent a shot at becoming President. I think the real travesty of 2016 was the fact that we as a nation were basically force fed a choice between Clinton and Trump with no other option having a chance.
 

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Nah, IM just a realist. And I realize from experience that when "Americans" meet some one of Latin/Hispanic heritage, its assumed they or their parents were from Mexico until otherwise corrected. Most Americans who dont know any one from Puerto Rico assume its some where in Mexico or south America and dont ever realize these are American Citizens.

But yea we need that wall to prevent the hostile invasion from Mexico. After all at a rate of 200K per year, in about 500 years if us Americans stopped breeding right this second.. my god they will out number us. :thumb:

So Americans assume in your experience?

How do you feel when people say blacks do something in their experience? Just saying?

At a rate of 200k per year, THEY DO outnumber us...they are called liberals. Now those who cross the border want to bring the same failed policies of their home nation. They even want to be called _____-American.

Are some of the people who cross the border hostile? An economic invasion is possibly the worst type of invasion. Economics is how we won the Cold War.

Is it actually wrong to want to know who enters and exits the country? Do people have a legal right to enter this country at their own will? In theory, wouldn't a wall slow the traffic of people flowing into this country unaccounted? Wouldn't a wall funnellpeople to actual border crossing areas? In theory, wouldn't a wall pay for itself over time?
 

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From a Geographical standpoint, add them to the Florida or Texas voter roles. Yes I know that risks skewing these two historically Red States. But IM becoming of the opinion that the electoral college needs to be done with. Use the popular vote which would actually allow a TRUE independent a shot at becoming President. I think the real travesty of 2016 was the fact that we as a nation were basically force fed a choice between Clinton and Trump with no other option having a chance.

Of course you think it is about geography. The thing is...they are not residents of those states and the federal government has no standing to rewrite borders and force inclusion of a territory into another state.

The electoral college prevents a small area of heavily populated region from dictating to the vast majority of regions in this country what to do. A true independent has zero shot because of monetary backing regardless of system we use, and I do agree that is a travesty.
 

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Of course you think it is about geography. The thing is...they are not residents of those states and the federal government has no standing to rewrite borders and force inclusion of a territory into another state.


Dude, have you forgotten HOW this country was formed?? Again, simple solution. abolish the electoral college. Rely on the popular vote and give EVERY American Citizen a right to vote in the most important process our country has. Get rid of the well this is my party and I have no choice but to vote for this guy mentality. Because at the ed of the day if they went off of the popular vote, neither Clinton or Trump would have won.

A true independent has zero shot because the system is designed to prevent a wild card. If you arent registered with a party, you are not even allowed to vote in the primaries.
 

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So Americans assume in your experience?


Haven't you assumed that most people who are democrats or Liberals as you term them, have become such because they want some sort of government hand out?

But yes most people ASSUME based on what they have either

1. Experienced
2. In a lot more cases been told or taught.
 
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