politics thread

[gkekoa]

Nice try, but that's the challenge that I've put to you.......you know that racism is a real thing. I said that it is a system (by the way to support white privilege/ supremacy built on the made up concept of white) you challenged that and as yet to prove it isn't.

BTW: I already know that you can't because historically "white" was introduced as a means to distinguish and justify Eurocentric slave trading and the dehumanizing of those who would be enslaved.

Just as a reminder, we've already debunked the notion of blacks "owning" slaves too so don't go there. It might also be wise NOT to infer or attempt to use the well worn BS about Africans selling their own people into slavery, especially since you've gone to great lengths in this thread to emphasize knowing right from wrong.

Actually, I asked you to prove it was. You proposed it.

Hold on...where did you disprove blacks owning slaves?

FACT CHECK: 9 Facts About Slavery They Don't Want You to Know

 

[Stymietee]

Yep...Fuck those democrats. They enslaved black people and voted against your civil rights. Now they have deceived you into believing their way is right and have 95% of the black vote. Isn't it funny how every "black area" in this country is run by liberals, has been for fifty years, and everyone of those places are failing. I agree...fuck democrats...to be less polite.

This is just historically incorrect, those democrats that you're referring to were called Dixie-crats, who upon learning that LBJ would push both the CR and VR laws switched parties. They were in effect Republicans.

Belittle an entire group if that makes you feel better, but the truth is most African Americans were originally Republicans (party of Lincoln) who later switched to the Dem. side when they realized that the crumbs being offered by that party were far better than nothing being offered by the other. We are NOT a monolithic segment in this country as you want to paint us, that is proven by @Sharkinva who is a republican and myself who has been a registered independent since 1972.

 

[Stymietee]

Show me one alternative fact or two.

Sure how about this one....."racism is not a system"

....Or this one...... Puerto Rican Americans need to be in a state in order to have an electoral vote. (RE: D.C.)

 

[gkekoa]

This is just historically incorrect, those democrats that you're referring to were called Dixie-crats, who upon learning that LBJ would push both the CR and VR laws switched parties. They were in effect Republicans.

Belittle an entire group if that makes you feel better, but the truth is most African Americans were originally Republicans (party of Lincoln) who later switched to the Dem. side when they realized that the crumbs being offered by that party were far better than nothing being offered by the other. We are NOT a monolithic segment in this country as you want to paint us, that is proven by @Sharkinva who is a republican and myself who has been a registered independent since 1972.

Those Dixie crats didn't change the Republican Party. The Republican Party never changed. It is and always will be about the individual. The Dixie crats chose the party of individual freedom over the party that decided to pretend to give a damn about the people they once enslaved.

So you admit black community went to the party that offered them stuff...not offered them equality under the law? Got it. Thanks for playing because I am done playing.

 

[Sharkinva]

Show me one alternative fact or two.

Most Americans dont automatically assume all Latino's are Mexican

 

[gkekoa]

Sure how about this one....."racism is not a system"

....Or this one...... Puerto Rican Americans need to be in a state in order to have an electoral vote. (RE: D.C.)

Show me where I said D.C. Didn't have electoral votes...missed that.

 

[gkekoa]

Most Americans dont automatically assume all Latino's are Mexican

So you believe MOST Americans assume ALL Latinos are Mexican is true? That is completely asinine.

 

[Stymietee]

Actually, I asked you to prove it was. You proposed it.

Hold on...where did you disprove blacks owning slaves?

FACT CHECK: 9 Facts About Slavery They Don't Want You to Know

Happened with you in the political thread quite a while ago, when I informed you that technically you were correct but in fact African American slave "owners" were buying relatives and others out of their chains. There is NO evidence beyond that that suggests these "slaves" were held in bondage and treated in the same manner as was the custom of that time.

 

[Sharkinva]

So you believe MOST Americans assume ALL Latinos are Mexican is true? That is completely asinine.

Do I really need to put a finer point on it?? Fine I will,I believe that portions of America have painted the Mexican as the latest bad guy, the Media has made the Mexican out to be any one not white, black, Indian or Chinese. I believe our President of all people is actively feeding into the sterotype that all Latino's are Mexican and should at minimum be watched because after all, if they look Mexican they might be here illegally.

 

[Stymietee]

Show me where I said D.C. Didn't have electoral votes...missed that.

See, now you're playing.....I....me...Sty, who said that D.C. had electoral votes in order to refute another of your notions.... that Puerto Rico needed to have or move to a state in order to have the same.

 

[gkekoa]

Happened with you in the political thread quite a while ago, when I informed you that technically you were correct but in fact African American slave "owners" were buying relatives and others out of their chains. There is NO evidence beyond that that suggests these "slaves" were held in bondage and treated in the same manner as was the custom of that time.

You stated it. It was just bullshit.

 

[gkekoa]

Do I really need to put a finer point on it?? Fine I will,I believe that portions of America have painted the Mexican as the latest bad guy, the Media has made the Mexican out to be any one not white, black, Indian or Chinese. I believe our President of all people is actively feeding into the sterotype that all Latino's are Mexican and should at minimum be watched because after all, if they look Mexican they might be here illegally.

Well...again you claim the word ALL. So sad.

 

[Sharkinva]

Well...again you claim the word ALL. So sad.

When did I say all. I said Americans as a general term, to remain as non argumentative as possible. I could have said most white republican Americans think all HIspanics are mexican. But that would be argumentative, and more to the point prosecutory. Which serves little point in meaningful debate.

But Im going to side track here for a second.... Do you believe in God @gkekoa?

 

[gkekoa]

See, now you're playing.....I....me...Sty, who said that D.C. had electoral votes in order to refute another of your notions.... that Puerto Rico needed to have or move to a state in order to have the same.

Seriously dude. Get a clue. You didn't bring up D.C. I did. Post 2860.

 

[Stymietee]

Those Dixie crats didn't change the Republican Party. The Republican Party never changed. It is and always will be about the individual. The Dixie crats chose the party of individual freedom over the party that decided to pretend to give a damn about the people they once enslaved.

So you admit black community went to the party that offered them stuff...not offered them equality under the law? Got it. Thanks for playing because I am done playing.

They didn't??? Oh really?.....
Dixiecrats - U-S-History.com
www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1751.html

I know why you're done and it has nothing to do with African Americans being offered stuff, everyone who votes, votes for something or against something that they believe others should have. So since you're gone, bye, and take your BS with you.

 

[gkekoa]

When did I say all. I said Americans as a general term, to remain as non argumentative as possible. I could have said most white republican Americans think all HIspanics are mexican. But that would be argumentative, and more to the point prosecutory. Which serves little point in meaningful debate.

But Im going to side track here for a second.... Do you believe in God @gkekoa?

Post 2902...ALL Latinos are Mexicans. Your words.

You know I do and I already know where you are going.

 

[Sharkinva]

Post 2902...ALL Latinos are Mexicans. Your words.

You know I do and I already know where you are going.

Actually I doubt that. So let me tell you where Im going.

If you believe in God, then you believe he created all things. Why would an all powerful being who is our father, be OK with one group of his children treating another group of his children in the manner that men do?? Im not going to question your beliefs.

 

[gkekoa]

They didn't??? Oh really?.....
Dixiecrats - U-S-History.com
www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1751.html

I know why you're done and it has nothing to do with African Americans being offered stuff, everyone who votes, votes for something or against something that they believe others should have. So since you're gone, bye, and take your BS with you.

Nope. They didn't change the Republican Party. They switched to the Republican Party. Huge difference. As usual, it is the liberals that are playing the race game.

You even stated in post 2895 that blacks switched when offered crumbs...not equality. The Republicans gave blacks equality under the law. The democrats upped the ante offered beyond equal rights under the law. Just keep believing the democrats are the way for the black community. All you will get is Chicago, New Orleans, and Detroit.

 

[gkekoa]

Actually I doubt that. So let me tell you where Im going.

If you believe in God, then you believe he created all things. Why would an all powerful being who is our father, be OK with one group of his children treating another group of his children in the manner that men do?? Im not going to question your beliefs.

Feel free to question me on this. It makes me think and question what I know. That is enlightenment.

What makes you believe he is OK with one group treating another group poorly? I don't believe he is OK with it. Just because he doesn't intervene, doesn't mean he is OK with it. The first thing he gave us is free will. If he intervenes, do we actually have free will? If he takes away the consequence of our actions, do we actually have free will?

I do believe he intervenes at times and I am not sure why or how.

You were right...I guess I didn't know where you were going.

 

[Sharkinva]

The Republicans gave blacks equality under the law.

Thats a hilarious statement considering that its 2017 and for all this equality you have been show court documents where non whites have been treated as second class in

1. The Job Market
2. The court system
3. The the financial and credit system

Aside from those three little things, we are all equal though. And if the Democrats gave me preferential treatment... for fuck sake PLEASE treat me like the persecuted white guy.. just for a little bit.