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1 - Bernie probably. Antifa for sure. Though theres a huge difference between Bernie and antifa obviously.

2 - So like I said - assuming you know more than the proffessionals.

3 - *shrug* I dont think theres a solid case for that but this is going nowhere lol

5 - Im not seeing that (or why it matters).

6 - Because unecessary cruelty shouldnt be our country's policy or applauded.

No not at all. Its not a refusal to learn english or intermingle. You have yet to provide any evidence of a lack of assimilation.

7 - Well by nature Gov spending increases GDP. Take 20 trillion out? What?

11 - Because THEN its actually hard for them to succeed. Instead of making it so that they can help America, that makes it so that they hurt america.

12 - Yup! Liberal professors are more common! I even presented on that topic once.

But...that doesnt actually mean that college is a liberal indoctrination. Sorry but yea its a conspiracy theory to think that somebody whos college age has liberal ideas because they were indoctrinated and told how to think politically by their professors.

And i can tell you for a fact (again) that in 4 years i was told how to act and think politically 0 times.

1- Every Democrat loves socialism. ANTIFA is a violent, fascist group so obviously.

2- Assuming I know more than people being paid to come up with the conclusion they are paid to. At least more honest than the ones that are promoted.

6- What is unusually cruel?

7- That is what the government has spent to inflate the economy.

11- These are the ILLEGALS. They shouldn’t have a job here, let alone be here. ILLEGALS do not help the country.

12- I showed you students who claimed their views were suppressed to the point of not going to class. It has been documented that their teaching is biased. It has been shown that they silence the opinions of speakers on campus.
 

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Correct me if IM wrong, but the Presidents job is to bring the country together.

Us vs Them doesnt fit that line of thinking.

Iran is 7000 miles away. Has no air force or navel force. Iran might want a fight, but the reality is its fight we picked. And its a fight we picked because we wanted their oil.

Ok..you are wrong. His job is Commander in Xhief. His job is to enforce laws, treaties, and court rulings, develop federal policies, prepare the budget, and appoint officials.

He is actually doing his job. I know it is hard to accept that because we haven’t had a POTUS in years that does his job.

We wanted their oil? How much oil have we been getting from Iran?
 

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He is actually doing his job. I know it is hard to accept that because we haven’t had a POTUS in years that does his job.


You left off the ending of this.. we havent had a Potus in years to do his job to YOUR satisfaction.

BUt thanks for clarifying that the Presidents job does not entail leading and bringing together all Americans. Explains so much about his us vs them mantra.
 

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You left off the ending of this.. we havent had a Potus in years to do his job to YOUR satisfaction.

BUt thanks for clarifying that the Presidents job does not entail leading and bringing together all Americans. Explains so much about his us vs them mantra.

No...doing his job. Enforcing the law of the land.

Can you show me where bringing people together is part of his job? Can you tell me how to bring Americans together when they are so vastly separated?
 

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What changed ? Can we say lie to get elected ?
 

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Why should he be? Everything that started this was illegally obtained and unethical as hell.

Trade - not really TBD

Immigration - harmful

Appointments - people hes given positions

Russia attempted to influence the election in favor of trump and his campaign has ties to Russian meddling. Maybe nothing comes of the investigation but there's certainly enough to warrant an investigation. Im interested to see how it turns out.

I will say though - i can only imagine how up in arms the right would be if it was Obama who Russia tried to help in an election and who had russian ties. Good lord the outrage would be - kinda like how it is now just the other direction actually.
 

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Would I be remiss to point out the oddity of an American President showing respect and borderline admiration for two known dictators of our time while also shown complete and utter contempt for American Presidents that proceeded him??
 

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1- Every Democrat loves socialism. ANTIFA is a violent, fascist group so obviously.

2- Assuming I know more than people being paid to come up with the conclusion they are paid to. At least more honest than the ones that are promoted.

6- What is unusually cruel?

7- That is what the government has spent to inflate the economy.

11- These are the ILLEGALS. They shouldn’t have a job here, let alone be here. ILLEGALS do not help the country.

12- I showed you students who claimed their views were suppressed to the point of not going to class. It has been documented that their teaching is biased. It has been shown that they silence the opinions of speakers on campus.

1 - They do?

2 - what?

6 - Tearing families apart and throwing children into "shelters"

7 - Thats a pretty small share of the economy

11 - Theyre also people living here and working here and members of their communities.

12 - So? You dont think there are students out there who think their school is racist and suppressing their far left ideas? You wanna defend them too?

If you think a college aged person with liberal views has been indoctrinated by their school you are buying into a conspiracy theory.
 

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Would I be remiss to point out the oddity of an American President showing respect and borderline admiration for two known dictators of our time while also shown complete and utter contempt for American Presidents that proceeded him??

Could you imagine if Obama did that? The anger Trump supporters wouldve had couldn't be fathomed lol
 

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It makes sense. Blacks have been manipulated for years. Now it is time to manipulate a larger group.

Uh no. She claims that blacks are being abused by the Dem party and that now Dems want to replace blacks in this role...

So she's saying it's bad for blacks to be replaced in a role that shes admitting is bad!!
 

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Russia attempted to influence the election in favor of trump and his campaign has ties to Russian meddling. Maybe nothing comes of the investigation but there's certainly enough to warrant an investigation. Im interested to see how it turns out.

I will say though - i can only imagine how up in arms the right would be if it was Obama who Russia tried to help in an election and who had russian ties. Good lord the outrage would be - kinda like how it is now just the other direction actually.

maybe you need to read up on the IG report because there was n collusion . and 2 years into it there isnt any evidence of it . obama put spies into an oppositions party campaign to dig up dirt . the fisa warrant was tainted

stop listening to left wing talking points and catch up on what is really happening with that investigation and the FBI's attempt to fix an election
 

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Russia attempted to influence the election in favor of trump and his campaign has ties to Russian meddling. Maybe nothing comes of the investigation but there's certainly enough to warrant an investigation. Im interested to see how it turns out.

I will say though - i can only imagine how up in arms the right would be if it was Obama who Russia tried to help in an election and who had russian ties. Good lord the outrage would be - kinda like how it is now just the other direction actually.

Did they? Has that been concluded? The FBI tried to influence the election in favor of Hillary and used those tactics to illegally find out about possible Russian meddling.

Well, the investigation has been going on for more than a year now. Meanwhile, the evidence being collected shows Hillary should be behind bars or at least being investigated impartially, as should Comey, Holder, Jarrett, Rice, and Obama.

Obama did try to help. It is all coming out but will they let it hit the top.
 

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Would I be remiss to point out the oddity of an American President showing respect and borderline admiration for two known dictators of our time while also shown complete and utter contempt for American Presidents that proceeded him??

It depends on what he is admiring. Are they doing their jobs? Did the prior presidents? I have plenty of contempt for our prior two POTUS and a little for this one because of his big mouth.
 

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“I still haven't figured out why Hillary lost. Was it the Russian uranium deal? or was it wikileaks ? or was it Podesta ? or Comey ? or was it a sexual predator husband ? or was a staff's husband Wiener immoral pictures ? was it subpoena violation? or was it the corrupt foundation ? or was it the congressional lies ? or was it the Benghazi bungle ? or was it pay for play ? or was it travel gate scandal ? or was it whitewater scandal ? or the Cattle Gate scandal ? Or the Trooper Gate scandal ? Or was it the $15 million for Chelsea's apt bought with foundation money ? Or Comey's investigation ? Or her husbands interference with Loretta Lynch and the investigation ? Or was it stealing debate questions ? Was it forensically deleting 30,000 emails ? The secret server in her house? Was it the Seth Rich murder ? Was it calling half the USA deplorable ? Was it the underhanded treatment of Bernie Sanders ? Was it the Vince Foster murder ? The Jennifer Flowers assault ? The Jennifer Flowers settlement ? The Paula Jones law suit ? The $800,000 Paula Jones settlement ? The lie about taking on sniper fire ? The impeachment ? The 6 billion $ she "lost" when in charge of the state dept ? The 10 million she took for the pardon of Marc Rich ? Or was it because she is a hateful & lying? Stealing from Haiti? Unethical lawyer who got fired from her 1st job? Defending a Chester?
Gee, I just cant quite put my finger on it, but it seems to be right in front of me.
 

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Uh no. She claims that blacks are being abused by the Dem party and that now Dems want to replace blacks in this role...

So she's saying it's bad for blacks to be replaced in a role that shes admitting is bad!!

Of course it is bad for blacks. They will still vote for dems but the dems won’t give a shit at all.
 

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1 - They do?

2 - what?

6 - Tearing families apart and throwing children into "shelters"

7 - Thats a pretty small share of the economy

11 - Theyre also people living here and working here and members of their communities.

12 - So? You dont think there are students out there who think their school is racist and suppressing their far left ideas? You wanna defend them too?

If you think a college aged person with liberal views has been indoctrinated by their school you are buying into a conspiracy theory.

1- or communism. They do not like individualism. Ayn Rand the smallest minority is the individual.

2- I believe most of these scientists come to predetermined conclusions that is what the people paying them want them to say.

6- Why is that unusually cruel? Are they breaking the law? Did they endanger their children? Doesn’t the law actually call, or at least allow, for imprisonment? It also calls for children to be separated from their parents.

7- It is a small percentage. But the economy is still needing it. I would be all for reducing government spending to fix the inflated economy.

11- Yet they shouldn’t be. They are also easily replaced.

12- Absolutely. It is far less and at private Christian organizations. Now if they don’t take a dime of government funding, I am OK with bias. Realistically, education should be about the facts, not the conclusions.

Conspiracy theories can be backed with evidence frequently.
 

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Ya know im starting to think we might be wasting out time :lol:

When I get bored with CNN or Fox News I come here. :lol:

The most important thing to exercise our will and our opinion is the chance we had yesterday and will have again in the fall. Vote!! We aren't always going to like who gets elected but it is what this countries foundation was built on.
 
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