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Rose broke THE rule. The Mother of All Rules. Bonds played 100% by the rules.
Bonds juiced and Rose had the most hits ever without juicing, gambling, waaaaaaah. Who gives a fuck. I’ll take straight up legit numbers over juiced numbers.
 

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Yeah I posted before reading above. I wouldn’t mind if he got in now but I don’t care if he doesn’t
I think it is in the zeitgeist now as a “lifetime” ban, and because the Hall is not actually attached to MLB, they could retcon the ban if the like.

But again, no controversial players get non MY ballot until B&C are both in.
 

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Bonds juiced and Rose had the most hits ever without juicing, gambling, waaaaaaah. Who gives a fuck. I’ll take straight up legit numbers over juiced numbers.
And Bonds hit the most HRs ever without ever betting against his own team.

So you are cool with messing with the integrity of the game, but against players who didn’t break any rules at all.

So basically, you are just pissed that Bonds was a meany-butt.
 

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I think it is in the zeitgeist now as a “lifetime” ban, and because the Hall is not actually attached to MLB, they could retcon the ban if the like.

But again, no controversial players get non MY ballot until B&C are both in.
I too agree B&C deserve it more than Rose
 

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And Bonds hit the most HRs ever without ever betting against his own team.

So you are cool with messing with the integrity of the game, but against players who didn’t break any rules at all.

So basically, you are just pissed that Bonds was a meany-butt.
So you think Rose happened to get all those hits by throwing games then or ? I
 

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What he put up for numbers scream HOF all fucking day. He got screwed.
Hope you’re trolling.

Baseball gave a guy from the Pirates a lifetime ban just a few months ago. For betting on baseball. It’s the cardinal sin.

Rose didn’t even fight his ban. So he could avoid prison most likely. He screwed himself.
 

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He was juicing as soon as he got to SF imo. Never dropped dirty, but still.

He is without a doubt the best player not enshrined though.
It is debatable when he started. It isn’t debatable that he did (allegedly) use.

It is also not debatable that he never broke a rule.
 

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It is debatable when he started. It isn’t debatable that he did (allegedly) use.

It is also not debatable that he never broke a rule.
He never got caught breaking a rule.


PEDs don’t bother me one bit fwiw.
 

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To my reasoning, the HOF should before players who made the game better. Did Joe Jackson and the Black Sox make the game, no they nearly ruined it. Did Pete Rose make the game better, no. His gambling was a huge stain and his constant whining didn't help. Did the Juicers help the game, no. They pissed on the record books just to pad their stats and their wallets. Not saying all offfield behavior should count. Mickey Mantle shouldn't be banned for being a drunk, Rogers Hornsby shouldn't be banned for being a complete dickhead. they didn't hurt the game, just themselves
 

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I recall watching the 70 all star game when rose ran ray fosse over and the 73 alds when he got into a fight with nym Harrelson.
 
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