Pete rose dead

[Jordan23]

Ignore Bonds post ‘99 and he is a HOFer

That was when he CONTINUED not breaking any rules.

Pete rose gamble since day one?

 

[calsnowskier]

Pete rose gamble since day one?

Huh? Who claimed that? Who even hinted at that?

Stay on point, son.

 

[broncosmitty]

A scumbag who got more hits than anybody.

He should've been in a long time ago

Maybe if he’d died a long time ago.

 

[Jordan23]

Huh? Who claimed that? Who even hinted at that?

Stay on point, son.

Hmmm did somebody mention Bonds before roids? I believe so which would be on point with the question unless that’s too much for a simple mind to understand

 

[Cedrique]

Maybe if he’d died a long time ago.

That would have been devastating. We would have been completely robbed of his bow tie phase on Fox baseball

 

[calsnowskier]

Hmmm did somebody mention Bonds before roids? I believe so which would be on point with the question unless that’s too much for a simple mind to understand

You are separating Rose into gambling and pre gambling And coming to the conclusion that he belongs in.

I brought in separating Roid Bonds and pre-Roid Bonds and posited that he was a HOFer just on those numbers.

Based on your retort, I guess you are saying Bonds HAD been roiding from day 1?

OK, let’s just assume, for argument sake, that he was roiding on day 1.

What rule was he breaking?

 

[Jordan23]

You are separating Rose into gambling and pre gambling And coming to the conclusion that he belongs in.

I brought in separating Roid Bonds and pre-Roid Bonds and posited that he was a HOFer just on those numbers.

Based on your retort, I guess you are saying Bonds HAD been roiding from day 1?

OK, let’s just assume, for argument sake, that he was roiding on day 1.

What rule was he breaking?

Let’s say he was doing roids day one, you aren’t sure what rule he was breaking? Lol

 

[calsnowskier]

Let’s say he was doing roids day one, you aren’t sure what rule he was breaking? Lol

Educate me.

Show everyone how smart you are and how dumb I am.

 

[Jordan23]

Educate me.

Show everyone how smart you are and how dumb I am.

Do you by barely middle or bonds career that juicing was against the rules or ? Wait, we don’t care about that. Clearly gambling makes a player better on the field but juicing, nah

 

[calsnowskier]

Do you by barely middle or bonds career that juicing was against the rules or ? Wait, we don’t care about that. Clearly gambling makes a player better on the field but juicing, nah

I am not responding to the bolded. Whatever language that is, I don’t speak.

As for the rest, I have never once questioned Rose’s numbers as a player. But he broke the #1 Grand Poobah rule in all of sports. He bet on games that he was involved in. He admitted to it. He agreed to be permanently banned from the game. None of this is even in debate. These are cold hard facts.

I will ask you again. What rule did Bonds or Clemens break?

 

[Jordan23]

I am not responding to the bolded. Whatever language that is, I don’t speak.

As for the rest, I have never once questioned Rose’s numbers as a player. But he broke the #1 Grand Poobah rule in all of sports. He bet on games that he was involved in. He admitted to it. He agreed to be permanently banned from the game. None of this is even in debate. These are cold hard facts.

I will ask you again. What rule did Bonds or Clemens break?

Was juicing ok when bonds played or against the rules?

 

[calsnowskier]

Was juicing ok when bonds played or against the rules?

You tell me. I KNOW the answer to that question.

Do you?

 

[Jordan23]

You tell me. I KNOW the answer to that question.

Do you?

Yes I do but I don’t think you do.

 

[calsnowskier]

Yes I do but I don’t think you do.

If you believe there was a rule against PEDS pre-2006, please provide documentation of its existence. Heck, forget documentation, just state it, and explain why you believe it.

 

[Jordan23]

If you believe there was a rule against PEDS pre-2006, please provide documentation of its existence. Heck, forget documentation, just state it, and explain why you believe it.

If you believe there was a rule against PEDS pre-2006, please provide documentation of its existence. Heck, forget documentation, just state it, and explain why you believe it.

Roids were banned from mlb back in 1991 but they didn’t test for PEDS til 2003

 

[calsnowskier]

Roids were banned from mlb back in 1991 but they didn’t test for PEDS til 2003

Wrong.

Giamatti wrote a memo that said he didn’t want players to use. But it had no teeth to it. It was simply a declaration of his desire.

 

[Pure Steel]

Wrong.

Giamatti wrote a memo that said he didn’t want players to use. But it had no teeth to it. It was simply a declaration of his desire.

I think it was Fay Vincent in 1991, Giamatti died in 89’

 

[calsnowskier]

I think it was Fay Vincent in 1991, Giamatti died in 89’

You are right. It was Fay Vincent on June 7, 1991

 

[calsnowskier]

In 2006, even Vincent stated that the memo had no standing and that Selig couldn’t use it to persecute Bonds.

 

[Cedrique]

This thread devolved into something negative when it really didn't have to. To get it back on track: