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Interesting stat from 2017 I didn't know. M's were 30th (last) in WAR at 1B. So they correct the problem with two rookies (rookie-ish). So Mariners.
 

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2017 Fangraphs WAR Rankings by Position:

C - 22nd
1B- 30th
2B- 11th
3B- 10th
SS- 26th
LF- 17th
CF- 27th
RF- 3rd
DH- 1st
OF- 13th
SP- 22nd
RP- 17th
P - 23rd
 

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Interesting stat from 2017 I didn't know. M's were 30th (last) in WAR at 1B. So they correct the problem with two rookies (rookie-ish). So Mariners.

That's interesting. I figured that the Valencia/Alonso combo would rank only slightly below average. Their cumulative stat line wasn't too bad.
 

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2017 Fangraphs WAR Rankings by Position:

C - 22nd
1B- 30th
2B- 11th
3B- 10th
SS- 26th
LF- 17th
CF- 27th
RF- 3rd
DH- 1st
OF- 13th
SP- 22nd
RP- 17th
P - 23rd

Surprised catching wasn't higher.

Zunino had a 3.3 WAR according to Baseball-Reference and always graded out well defensively. Wonder if the drop-off between him and Ruiz was enough to really drop that value.

I'd also imagine that CF would be graded higher if Dyson was healthy the entire season, although I don't believe base-running ability is very highly valued when calculating WAR.
 

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That's interesting. I figured that the Valencia/Alonso combo would rank only slightly below average. Their cumulative stat line wasn't too bad.

That was my thought. Was surprised to see otherwise.
 

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Surprised catching wasn't higher.

Zunino had a 3.3 WAR according to Baseball-Reference and always graded out well defensively. Wonder if the drop-off between him and Ruiz was enough to really drop that value.

I'd also imagine that CF would be graded higher if Dyson was healthy the entire season, although I don't believe base-running ability is very highly valued when calculating WAR.

Per Fangraphs
Ruiz .5
Zunino 3.6
Marjama .2
Gosewisch -.6
 

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That was my thought. Was surprised to see otherwise.

Maybe had something to do with base running, defense and the situations in which they played well maybe. That's all I can speculate. Maybe Valencia and Alonso only put up decent numbers during garbage time, but I honestly can't remember.
 

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Per Fangraphs
Ruiz .5
Zunino 3.6
Marjama .2
Gosewisch -.6

Surprised Ruiz rated above replacement level.

I know Gosewisch had terrible stats in the 11 games he played, but didn't know 11 games was enough to rate at -0.6 below replacement level.
 

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Surprised Ruiz rated above replacement level.

I know Gosewisch had terrible stats in the 11 games he played, but didn't know 11 games was enough to rate at -0.6 below replacement level.

Before looking it up, I thought Ruiz would be -1.5 or so.
 

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Ya, I don't think there is anything to it but why does a millionaire go to Seattle in December?

This isn't the time of year I'd want to go to Seattle. Additionally, it could be a ploy by Boras to drive up his value. Seattle needs pitching, and despite JD's comments, we have tended to make surprising moves here and there.
 

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This isn't the time of year I'd want to go to Seattle. Additionally, it could be a ploy by Boras to drive up his value. Seattle needs pitching, and despite JD's comments, we have tended to make surprising moves here and there.

If Boras is his agent, then anything is possible. I hate that leach.
 

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If Boras is his agent, then anything is possible. I hate that leach.

He's a good agent, you have to give him that.

Could've booked his family a flight to Seattle to drive up his value with the real team interested. Would be a smart move on his part. There is a reason why every baseball fan knows his name, he's good at what he does.
 

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He's a good agent, you have to give him that.

Could've booked his family a flight to Seattle to drive up his value with the real team interested. Would be a smart move on his part. There is a reason why every baseball fan knows his name, he's good at what he does.

Charles Manson was good at what he did as well, but that doesn't give him respect in my book. No respect for the man...none.
 

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Charles Manson was good at what he did as well, but that doesn't give him respect in my book. No respect for the man...none.

He's great at his craft. Not in a respectable way, but a really good agent nonetheless.

When fans hate you like that, you know you're getting your clients paid.
 

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Charles Manson was good at what he did as well, but that doesn't give him respect in my book. No respect for the man...none.

Come on now, Boras is a scum bag who doesn't care about the health of the sport nor the players but athletes need scumbags to represent them. I see your point but owners and general managers can be scumwads too.
 
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