Neftali Feliz

[Windingmywatch]

I just don't think Feliz has the required mental fortitude to pitch for long stretches, he too often resorts back to his heat slinging urges

And I'll say it again, no one pushed for, wanted or defended his ability to start from the beginning,

One of the biggest mistakes they made with him was putting him in the bullpen to begin with, at least for as long as they did

... unless you are counting the 58 starts in 85 appearances he made in the minors.

Neftali Feliz Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com

 

[jta4437]

... unless you are counting the 58 starts in 85 appearances he made in the minors.

Neftali Feliz Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com

I meant from the moment he came to the Rangers and they made him a reliever for that playoff run, I wanted him to go back to being a starter ASAP, I didn't want him to get pigeon-holed as a closer so early

Didn't happen though

 

[jta4437]

... unless you are counting the 58 starts in 85 appearances he made in the minors.

Neftali Feliz Minor League Statistics & History - Baseball-Reference.com

And actually the questions of reliever/starter started before he ever came up with us the first time, I wanted him to remain a starter then

 

[Senator_fan]

Although both Feliz and Ogando can have success as a starter, I see them going for 6 innings and then work the bullpen. Not exactly Ryan prototypes. Darvish, Holland and Harrison are more like 7/8 inning pitchers.

Pitches per inning:

Ogando 17.5
Feliz 17.3
Darvish 16.5
Holland 15.4
Harrison 15.2 (2012)

By the way, Ogando's fastball was reaching 97/98 last year and only 93/95 this year.

 

[jta4437]

Although both Feliz and Ogando can have success as a starter, I see them going for 6 innings and then work the bullpen. Not exactly Ryan prototypes. Darvish, Holland and Harrison are more like 7/8 inning pitchers.

Pitches per inning:

Ogando 17.5
Feliz 17.3
Darvish 16.5
Holland 15.4
Harrison 15.2 (2012)

By the way, Ogando's fastball was reaching 97/98 last year and only 93/95 this year.

Not disagreeing but Ogando was hitting 96 pretty regularly last night

 

[RevSader]

Not disagreeing but Ogando was hitting 96 pretty regularly last night

96 with no command is better for one or two innings at time though.

 

[jta4437]

96 with no command is better for one or two innings at time though.

Like I said, not disagreeing except about the top speed he's been hitting this year

 

[Senator_fan]

Not disagreeing but Ogando was hitting 96 pretty regularly last night

I just realized those numbers I quoted are his release speeds, however they are down this year from the previous 3 years. He does seem to pick up speed as the season goes on though. You can check his velocity at Brooks Baseball.

 

[Windingmywatch]

Feliz is pitching top of the 5th against Salt Lake City ... watching on gameday. Too cheap to buy MiLB TV.

http://www.milb.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_08_08_slcaaa_rreaaa_1&mode=gameday

 

[Windingmywatch]

Feliz lasted 0.2 in the top of the 5th.

1H, 2BB ... got a ground out and a fly out ... left with the bases loaded.

RR was already down 15-3 ... so wonder why he was pulled?

 

[Hambombs]

Feliz lasted 0.2 in the top of the 5th.

1H, 2BB ... got a ground out and a fly out ... left with the bases loaded.

RR was already down 15-3 ... so wonder why he was pulled?

What was he hitting on the Gun?

 

[Windingmywatch]

What was he hitting on the Gun?

Gameday didn't show speeds or type pitch. Kinda lame details. Scott Lucas will have the details tomorrow for sure.

 

[Senator_fan]

Feliz lasted 0.2 in the top of the 5th.

1H, 2BB ... got a ground out and a fly out ... left with the bases loaded.

RR was already down 15-3 ... so wonder why he was pulled?

Maybe he was on a pitch count of 20.

 

[Windingmywatch]

Leury Garcia just hit a HR off Jason Vargas ... TEX haunts LAA even for those LAA pitchers rehabbing.

 

[jta4437]

Feliz lasted 0.2 in the top of the 5th.

1H, 2BB ... got a ground out and a fly out ... left with the bases loaded.

RR was already down 15-3 ... so wonder why he was pulled?

Couldn't really expect more than that at this point, hopefully next time is better

 

[Windingmywatch]

Maybe he was on a pitch count of 20.

He threw 22 ...

 

[Windingmywatch]

Couldn't really expect more than that at this point, hopefully next time is better

This was his third rehab appearance. Pitched at AZ before this.

 

[Hambombs]

Neftali Feliz 90-94 FB, 85-86 CH, 80-83 SL per chart/scout guns. 11 balls 11 strikes. CH flat. FB control off. It's rehab. Retired 2 of 5

Scott Lucas

 

[Nathan Ahle/Triple 7]

I don't really see Feliz making any kind of legitimate major league action this year. If he is healthy enough for a spot start then I might consider rolling him out, but not if the division is still up in the air. I want our best guys going down the stretch to seal the deal. Down the road Feliz is destined for the rotation. I can see him starting for a few years then taking over the closing job after Joe Nathan is done (probably in 2-3 years). He could be a really solid number 3 guy and would take the spot vacated by Colby Lewis when he retires (Assuming Lewis plays for another 5 years, which is likely). For now, I want Feliz to focus on his future so he doesn't rush into coming back for the postseason and accidentally re-injure himself.

 

[pegasusredleg]

Feliz and Harry rehabbing...Tepesche soon all good news. I predict none of the above get in the rotation this year unless there is another injury.