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trojanfan12

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You think it is ok to demand a player to get in the game if a nagging injury he was dealing with since middle of October was bothering him again?

Both are wrong here. AB for doing what he did but that never happens if Arians doesnt order him back in on a bum ankle

AB's ankle wasn't hurt bad enough to stop him from playing. AB is 100% wrong.
 

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But now Arians is saying Brown said nothing about an injury to him.
 

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Very easy.

Ignore him during the game, Cut him after the game.

He was acting up BECAUSE Arians told him to go in after AB said he was hurt.

Causes by Arians.
Oh my gosh, this is one of the funnier things I’ve ever read
 

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AB's ankle wasn't hurt bad enough to stop him from playing. AB is 100% wrong.
And that is why he won’t get any backing to speak of. Sorry Brady spoke, that’s all he is getting.
 

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lol

Arians didn't cause this. AB being an immature moron caused this. Unless there's something else that hasn't been reported, this is 100% on AB.

If AB said he was hurt, and Arians told him to go in, then yes. It is on Arians too.

If that conversation never happened, then it is 100% AB.

AB is wrong either way.
 

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And that is why he won’t get any backing to speak of. Sorry Brady spoke, that’s all he is getting.

So…

You have never seen a player start a game playing through an injury and then later come out because they didn’t feel right?
 

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I'm guessing any stress on his ankle would've been more likely aggravated by planting and cutting. If he was having issues with even running and jumping, he wouldn't have been active in the first place.

Then he obviously wasn't having issues with running and jumping. He certainly didn't seem to be having issues with with running and jumping when he was leaving.
 

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So just to confirm your stance. You think it is ok for a coach to tell a player to get in the game if theplayer told his coach that he is hurt?
It’s ok for a coach to use all the information he has seen with his own eyes to make the best decision for the team yes. The team is being so nice by not completing blowing Brown up at this point. It’s a joke that a coach like Arians would even be questioned to be honest.
 

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So…

You have never seen a player start a game playing through an injury and then later come out because they didn’t feel right?
Once again, you are making assumptions when this case screams that there is so much more that happened.
 

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I get why Arians was skeptical of AB,

But coaches rightfully get fired for less.

My thing is he had no reason to act up this week. If he wanted to act up then it would have took place last week. He came back from his suspension last week and balled out. I would have been more skeptical if he practiced and wasn't on the injury report.
 

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Then he obviously wasn't having issues with running and jumping. He certainly didn't seem to be having issues with with running and jumping when he was leaving.
Well you know that was just adrenaline, because you know, just because.
 

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So…

You have never seen a player start a game playing through an injury and then later come out because they didn’t feel right?

Yep, seen that.

What I haven't seen is a player saying he an injury didn't feel right and then do things that he shouldn't be able to do if he was really hurt as he was leaving the field.
 

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This doesn't help his case. Doing what he does is why he's no longer in the league.

Nobody is saying what AB did is right.

What we are saying is that if AB’s story is true, what Arians did is wrong also.

Stop making this sound like we are giving AB a pass here. I am not doing that.
 

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My thing is he had no reason to act up this week.

Since when does someone who looks to be having some sort of mental issue needed a reason to act up? What reason did he have to use a fake vaxx card? What reason did he have to not pay his personal chef and why would he tell his personal chef that he was using a fake vaxx card.

AB has done many things over the years that he had no reason to do.
 

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Yep, seen that.

What I haven't seen is a player saying he an injury didn't feel right and then do things that he shouldn't be able to do if he was really hurt as he was leaving the field.

It was a little jog. Lets not act like he was running full speed routes on his way to the locker room
 

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Since when does someone who looks to be having some sort of mental issue needed a reason to act up? What reason did he have to use a fake vaxx card? What reason did he have to not pay his personal chef and why would he tell his personal chef that he was using a fake vaxx card.

AB has done many things over the years that he had no reason to do.

Trust me when i tell you he's not the only one with a fake vax card in the nfl
 

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Nobody is saying what AB did is right.

What we are saying is that if AB’s story is true, what Arians did is wrong also.

Stop making this sound like we are giving AB a pass here. I am not doing that.

Then quit trying to put this anywhere but where it belongs...on AB. This is 100% on AB...especially now that Arians says AB never said anything about his ankle and considering that AB didn't look to have a problem with his ankle as he left.

I've heard several former players talk about this morning...not one has put this on anyone but AB.
 

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Nobody is saying what AB did is right.

What we are saying is that if AB’s story is true, what Arians did is wrong also.

Stop making this sound like we are giving AB a pass here. I am not doing that.
And what common sense, and some like myself, are saying is that there is a lot more to this. Did he first get pissed about thinking he wasn’t getting enough snaps and THEN decide he was hurt? Guarantee you it’s something like that and the organization has ample evidence to do what they did.
 

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Trust me when i tell you he's not the only one with a fake vax card in the nfl

And? You think this somehow helps his case? How many of those players came in on a zero tolerance policy and then got caught with a fake card?
 
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