NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[shopson67]

Yep.

....and the Dodgers swoop in and restock as needed.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I think that what is happening shows just how badly the NFL has handled these types of issues. Hopefully, they will learn from this and actually change things.

Sadly, I'll be a bit surprised if they actually do.

what they should do is just defer to an expert like Robinson who would clean it up over time--- and hire some former lawyers to update their policies.....if they did those 2 things---- let the hearing officer sort through it all, and hired some good lawyers to update policies- the process would be vastly more open and fair and probably result in less violations and much less controversy.

 

[WiggyRuss]

whenever anyone dies that is in the public eye- whether a former president or the 6th actor on a 40 year old sitcom- DJ has his long elaborate eulogies for days....

most of the people wouldnt piss on him in real life if he was on fire....but he always brings the eulogies out on the sportswebs.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Padres really through all caution to the wind and went all in, trading away most of their farm system. Could pay off, could really hurt long term.

they still ahve some guys- and really- they had a very good farm system before...its not like they have the worst now....def prob. bottom 6-7.....but its not disastrous.

teams like the Phillies, Nats, Cubs, Angels, White Sox, Astros are all pretty bad.........obviously Nats are gonna make a huge jump now.

Cincy made a huge jump too.....not as big as the Nats, but a pretty nice jump.

 

[WiggyRuss]

They got a nasty lineup but in the end, the Dodgers are still in their division and superior imo. Doesn’t mean they can’t beat them but anticipating they only have him for 2 years they need a WS title for all these moves to pay off. A lot of competition with the Cards, Mets, Braves and Dodgers.

I bet they resign him. I dont think you make that deal to let him go.....either that or if disaster hits to re-trade him- but I doubt that.

they can pay Machado, Tatis and Soto...Hosmer is off the books, they dont have al ot of other money on the books....Musgrove just signed for 20M which is high but not super high for a good #2....

Soto is so young as is Tatis.....I sign those 2 guys forever and just build around them.

 

[fightinfunbags]

I have to say, I have never seen or heard of a situation where one side brings a violation they do not have a definition for, is able to make up the definition during the hearing, and the hearing officer is bound by whatever their definition is that has been made up on the spot.

usually if there is a policy and it is broad or vague the hearing officer will interpret it--- not the side that wrote it since its obviously self-serving.

Sexual assault is a common term in our vernacular though. Why would the contract need to define that? Any attempts to do so will assuredly not be comprehensive. This would create unintended blind spots and a loop hole.

 

[thunderc]

An Arbitrator Left Deshaun Watson’s Fate to the N.F.L. Commissioner (Published 2022)

The league has until Thursday to appeal the six-game suspension of Watson recommended by hearing officer Sue L. Robinson. Legal experts said she gave Roger Goodell plenty of incentive to do so.

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[Stakesarehigh]

I think this is where she freewheels a little.

I think that since the NFL did not have a definition in any kind of handbook, or any kind of written policy at all, and offered a vague definition in the hearing that the hearing officer herself said was not great in scope- she was forced to bring some clarity and make some determinations and interpret past rulings and precedent and try and make some sense out of them.

Not only that but that the NFL did not provide notice to the players that they'd be ramping up punishment for such offenses. She said this multiple times through her decision. What the NFL should have done rather than focus solely on Watson as a one off used his situation to broaden the scope of punishment before it even came down to her decision. She may have still ruled the way she did but it would've been more likely she find the season to be appropriate given the NFL giving notice as such to the entire league.

 

[WiggyRuss]

@shopson67 looks like your boy Gonsolin is starting to feel the workload

 

[shopson67]

@shopson67 looks like your boy Gonsolin is starting to feel the workload

Definitely having a bad stretch.

 

[thunderc]

I expect the suspension will be increased considerably

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[fightinfunbags]

 

[fightinfunbags]

And why they’ll likely win

 

[Stakesarehigh]

This is going to wind up in federal court

 

[fightinfunbags]

This is going to wind up in federal court

It very well could.

 

[thunderc]

This is going to wind up in federal court

No it won’t, the CBA says the Commisioners changes are final and binding.

 

[Shanemansj13]

So the NFL appointed Robinson and now they are appealing. Why not just make a decision from the start?
If they appeal and go full season this thing is going to be dangling for a full season in court and Watson will play. Maybe that’s what the NFL wants, for him to play this season and then get suspended for some of next season to fork over A LOT more money

 

[Shanemansj13]

No it won’t, the CBA says the Commisioners changes are final and binding.

The NFLPA will take it to court and they can

 

[fightinfunbags]

So the NFL appointed Robinson and now they are appealing. Why not just make a decision from the start?
If they appeal and go full season this thing is going to be dangling for a full season in court and Watson will play. Maybe that’s what the NFL wants, for him to play this season and then get suspended for some of next season to fork over A LOT more money

Roger Goodell has an anti-Cleveland agenda

 

[Stakesarehigh]

It very well could.

It all depends on the punishment and timeliness if it all imo. If it dragged out etc...

If it bumped to 8 or 10 maybe not. But for a dude who's been completely smashed by a wave of negativity he seems pretty confident..

But obviously he fucked up royally not throwing money at this much sooner. So confidence doesn't equal intelligence.