My current framing of the MJ vs LeBron debate

[Jordan23]

Ok...at this point you have to be kidding, right? If you are then well played. If not........?

He’s not wrong about anyone scoring in the all star game but that’s also become a joke. That’s just an offensive chuck and fancy plays zero defense. If he were talking an actual nba game then I’d question if he was serious.

 

[trojanfan12]

NBA is flopping and soft ass players. Get bumped anywhere near their head and they are down rolling like they got skull fucked with a sledge hammer. I think the softness in today’s game is what hits me and the 1 dribble at half court 4 step Dunks. March madness is miles better.

lol

Tell us you don't watch the NBA without telling us you don't watch the NBA.

 

[trojanfan12]

Classic seeing dipshits try argue for the WWE nba over March madness where teams play team ball and upsets happen.

lol

Upsets don't happen in March Madness because they play team ball. At least that's not the main reason. The main reason is that it's single elimination. So, a superior team having one bad game can end their run.

NBA let’s build a super team that way next year everyone has a 90% chance of guessing what teams will meet in th finals, woohoo!!!!

You do realize that there have always been "superteams", right? In the 80's there were the Lakers, Celtics and Sixers, In the 90's there were the Bulls, Rockets and Knicks.

The only difference is that there is more freedom of movement these days, so they can choose to go to another team more easily than in past years.

And before you say something stupid like "Magic, Barkley and MJ wouldn't have chosen to play together", we don't know that because they were on teams with ownership that was getting them what they needed to win and they didn't have the same opportunity to change teams.

 

[Jordan23]

lol

Tell us you don't watch the NBA without telling us you don't watch the NBA.

Basketball was my life. There is nothing incorrect about my post in any way. Tell
Me you don’t watch it if you think otherwise.

 

[Jordan23]

lol

Upsets don't happen in March Madness because they play team ball. At least that's not the main reason. The main reason is that it's single elimination. So, a superior team having one bad game can end their run.



You do realize that there have always been "superteams", right? In the 80's there were the Lakers, Celtics and Sixers, In the 90's there were the Bulls, Rockets and Knicks.

The only difference is that there is more freedom of movement these days, so they can choose to go to another team more easily than in past years.

And before you say something stupid like "Magic, Barkley and MJ wouldn't have chosen to play together", we don't know that because they were on teams with ownership that was getting them what they needed to win and they didn't have the same opportunity to change teams.

Tell me you know nothing about basketball without telling me. You comparing
How super teams are built today compared to decades ago tells me
You know very little.

 

[tlance]

Tell me you know nothing about basketball without telling me. You comparing
How super teams are built today compared to decades ago tells me
You know very little.

So…

You are made that the players have more control today vs the owners from the past.

Because that is the main difference.

And guess what college teams do? They recruit the best players they can get.

Elite programs tend to get all the 4 and 5 star recruits. The reason the little guys have a chance is because you are watching boys vs men.

Very fun to watch. Not a higher quality product.

 

[Jordan23]

So…

You are made that the players have more control today vs the owners from the past.

Because that is the main difference.

And guess what college teams do? They recruit the best players they can get.

Elite programs tend to get all the 4 and 5 star recruits. The reason the little guys have a chance is because you are watching boys vs men.

Very fun to watch. Not a higher quality product.

Recruiting in college isn’t anywhere the same as how NBA players and colluding is. You know better than that, come on.

 

[SJ76]

Any questions let me know.

All in less years too

 

[SJ76]

Never losing a game 7 while going 6-0 in the finals ends most arguments.

MJ never even played in a game 7 in the finals. And once again so many forget it’s not all about offense. Lebron has never even sniffed being the best defender in the league.

Lebrons longevity is great but the league today is not nearly as physical and we all know it. Kareem’s longevity was great too. So was Stocktons

 

[dtgold88]

NBA is flopping and soft ass players. Get bumped anywhere near their head and they are down rolling like they got skull fucked with a sledge hammer. I think the softness in today’s game is what hits me and the 1 dribble at half court 4 step Dunks. March madness is miles better.

Cool but was said college better because they call travels and less flopping. By that "logic" since they call travels and less fllopping in a rec league that must be better than college.

It's cool you prefer college....but no need to make up a foolish narrative as to why.

 

[dtgold88]

Sorry not all college coaches are buying players like Calipari

Never even said they are buying them...but now and even before NIL coaches could recruit the best players and many did.

 

[dtgold88]

Yes, pick out the one fluke year. Good work

The "one fluke year" happened the be the most recent one completed....never mind it has happened many other times.

 

[Wamu]

MJ never even played in a game 7 in the finals. And once again so many forget it’s not all about offense. Lebron has never even sniffed being the best defender in the league.

Lebrons longevity is great but the league today is not nearly as physical and we all know it. Kareem’s longevity was great too. So was Stocktons

You're completely incapable of giving LeBron any credit for the unmatched career he's had.

It says a lot about his game that he's only compared to the GOAT. No other player is only compared to MJ.

 

[dtgold88]

He’s not wrong about anyone scoring in the all star game but that’s also become a joke. That’s just an offensive chuck and fancy plays zero defense. If he were talking an actual nba game then I’d question if he was serious.

He used an all star game to try and make his point. as I said, if he's kidding, great...he got us. I just hope he's not for his sake.

 

[trojanfan12]

So…

You are made that the players have more control today vs the owners from the past.

Because that is the main difference.

And guess what college teams do? They recruit the best players they can get.

Elite programs tend to get all the 4 and 5 star recruits. The reason the little guys have a chance is because you are watching boys vs men.

Very fun to watch. Not a higher quality product.

And now, with the transfer portal, they can move to a different school if they want to.

 

[SJ76]

You're completely incapable of giving LeBron any credit for the unmatched career he's had.

It says a lot about his game that he's only compared to the GOAT. No other player is only compared to MJ.

You’re completely butthurt as usual and can’t read.

Go back and see where I said Lebrons longevity is great. Longevity is longevity. It’s also easier to play longer in this current league. Lol facts are tough I know

Lebron never won a DPOY

 

[msgkings322]

You’re completely butthurt as usual and can’t read.

Go back and see where I said Lebrons longevity is great. Longevity is longevity. It’s also easier to play longer in this current league. Lol facts are tough I know

Lebron never won a DPOY

LeBron has some stuff MJ never did. MJ never won FMVPs with 3 different franchises. MJ never scored as many points or grabbed as many rebounds or made as many assists as LeBron. LeBron played in more all star games. Etc.

As we keep saying, you can make a great case for MJ as GOAT, he probably is still overall considered that. But to ignore LeBron's pretty good claim on that is dumb. No way to prove this stuff, saying it's not close is lame.

 

[Wamu]

You’re completely butthurt as usual and can’t read.

Go back and see where I said Lebrons longevity is great. Longevity is longevity. It’s also easier to play longer in this current league. Lol facts are tough I know

Lebron never won a DPOY

Why would I be "butthurt"? I think it's funny you can't give LeBron any credit for his great career without trying to diminish it. My all time favorite player is Larry Legend not the fella you hate-hate-hate with a passion.

And I saw exactly what you said.

Lebrons longevity is great but the league today is not nearly as physical and we all know it. Kareem’s longevity was great too. So was Stocktons

Of course you still had to try an knock him by saying it's not as physical as MJ's day. Which is true. But that was yet another lame attempt from you to discredit his career.

I don't like KD and have said many things about him. But I have always given him credit for the great career he's had.

You might be the worst MJ nut-hugger on this site.

"Lebron never won a DPOY"

^^^




Well thank you mr. obvious. Yer sharp! Maybe next you'll say it's Tuesday. I already said MJ is the GOAT.

 

[SJ76]

LeBron has some stuff MJ never did. MJ never won FMVPs with 3 different franchises. MJ never scored as many points or grabbed as many rebounds or made as many assists as LeBron. LeBron played in more all star games. Etc.

As we keep saying, you can make a great case for MJ as GOAT, he probably is still overall considered that. But to ignore LeBron's pretty good claim on that is dumb. No way to prove this stuff, saying it's not close is lame.

Yes Lebron has played in way more games so he will have more points rebounds etc.

Points per game however he can’t hold MJs jock and he’s played in a much less physical league. MJ average what today? 35? 38?

And then there is the rings. Lol

But if you’re looking for longevity Lebron is your guy

 

[SJ76]

Why would I be "butthurt"? I think it's funny you can't give LeBron any credit for his great career without trying to diminish it. My all time favorite player is Larry Legend not the fella you hate-hate-hate with a passion.

And I saw exactly what you said.



Of course you still had to try an knock him by saying it's not as physical as MJ's day. Which is true. But that was yet another lame attempt from you to discredit his career.

I don't like KD and have said many things about him. But I have always given him credit for the great career he's had.

You might be the worst MJ nut-hugger on this site.

"Lebron never won a DPOY"

^^^

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Well thank you mr. obvious. Yer sharp! Maybe next you'll say it's Tuesday. I already said MJ is the GOAT.

Booohooo lol. Here is his cred