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My current framing of the MJ vs LeBron debate

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I look at it all. Yes he did that. Yes the East was pretty weak. Yes the Warriors were strong. Jordan’s Eastern conference when young was not weak.

All that. Bron Is still not the GOAT.

Who exactly has said LeBron's the GOAT in this thread? The exact comment number.

And I thought wiggy was over the top with his LeBron nut-hugging when he was a Cav. Congrats for being on his level.
 

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Who exactly has said LeBron's the GOAT in this thread? The exact comment number.

And I thought wiggy was over the top with his LeBron nut-hugging when he was a Cav. Congrats for being on his level.


No idea. Just talking b-ball here Welcome back to the thread
 

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You’re completely butthurt as usual and can’t read.

Go back and see where I said Lebrons longevity is great. Longevity is longevity. It’s also easier to play longer in this current league. Lol facts are tough I know

Lebron never won a DPOY

DPOY is an accolade with plenty of politics attached.

LeBron was absolutely an elite defender in his prime. Arguably the best perimeter defender in the league, just like MJ was (although not for as long).

Whether or not a player wins a subjective accolade like DPOY when the 2 played in completely different eras proves nothing.
 

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DPOY is an accolade with plenty of politics attached.

LeBron was absolutely an elite defender in his prime. Arguably the best perimeter defender in the league, just like MJ was (although not for as long).

Whether or not a player wins a subjective accolade like DPOY when the 2 played in completely different eras proves nothing.


Here we go. DPOY all politics

Lmao

“But but but Brons not a politician”
 

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Look at the politics!! Unfair!!! Bwhahaha


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Here we go. DPOY all politics

Lmao

“But but but Brons not a politician”

You act like there is a clear cut answer to who the best defender in the league is.

There isn’t. Not even close.

We still don’t have the stats we need to adequately measure individual defense.

Extremely subjective award.

Just because LeBron never got one doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve it.
 

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You act like there is a clear cut answer to who the best defender in the league is.

There isn’t. Not even close.

We still don’t have the stats we need to adequately measure individual defense.

Extremely subjective award.

Just because LeBron never got one doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve it.


Stop it my stomach hurts. Poor Bron not a politician.


High larious
 

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Loaded with talent?

Why is that?

The Celtics were awful before Bird. Fewest wins since the 40’s right before he got there. Red Auerbach almost left they were so bad. Didn’t get McHale and Parrish until after Bird.

I have Kareem below LBJ. What else can I do?

the Celtics had 3 hall of famers and Cedric Maxwell the year before Bird lol.
 

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I look at it all. Yes he did that. Yes the East was pretty weak. Yes the Warriors were strong. Jordan’s Eastern conference when young was not weak.

All that. Bron Is still not the GOAT.

Also when you play many more year, chances are you are gonna have more of everything.
Lebron might not be the GOAT but it's absurd to hold getting to the Finals and losing against him while ignoring the many times MJ could not even get to the Finals.
 

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It was a question that you are avoiding. Truth is we have no idea but it would be a lot
what question am I avoiding?

I simply replied to your guess when you could make up whatever you want and barely had MJ averaging more than Embiid.
 

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No idea. Just talking b-ball here Welcome back to the thread

Okay wiggy, I mean sj76.

Your utter hatred for LeBron is great. Please continue.
 

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I look at it all. Yes he did that. Yes the East was pretty weak. Yes the Warriors were strong. Jordan’s Eastern conference when young was not weak.

All that. Bron Is still not the GOAT.

Also when you play many more year, chances are you are gonna have more of everything.

MJ should have been less of a pussy and played longer.
 

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something to be said there......he did quit the second time when Scotty and Phillip were going and it was going to be harder.

He could have had it even easier. Pretty sure the Lakers would have signed him to be Kobe's backup..
 

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what question am I avoiding?

I simply replied to your guess when you could make up whatever you want and barely had MJ averaging more than Embiid.


The question I asked twice. How many points would Jordan average today?


Dam
 

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The question I asked twice. How many points would Jordan average today?


Dam
Forced to guess maybe 35 but does what any of us say really matter...especially those like you with a clear agenda?

But we know your original guess had him barely higher than Embiid.
 

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The question I asked twice. How many points would Jordan average today?


Dam

probably 40. not much more. My personal opinion is he'd have worked on his outside shot more but the zoning is something teams can now throw at him they could not then.
 

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Forced to guess maybe 35 but does what any of us say really matter...especially those like you with a clear agenda?

But we know your original guess had him barely higher than Embiid.


Oooh oooh now I have a clear agenda.

That’s cute
 
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