My current framing of the MJ vs LeBron debate

[msgkings322]

Yes Lebron has played in way more games so he will have more points rebounds etc.

Points per game however he can’t hold MJs jock and he’s played in a much less physical league. MJ average what today? 35? 38?

And then there is the rings. Lol

But if you’re looking for longevity Lebron is your guy

Also if you're looking for excellence in different systems with different teammates. And carrying worse rosters to titles. Or rebounds or assists. More to the game than scoring.

MJ might be GOAT, but it's close

 

[SJ76]

In 1988, Michael Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year and the Scoring Title with 35 ppg! He is the only player to win DPOY & the Scoring Title



Lebron only averaged over 30 twice in his 2 decades.

 

[rmilia1]

Kareem is the GOAT by so much it's not even worth debating really

MJ and LBJ both have an argument for 2nd along with a few others ( Magic, Kobe, Russell and Duncan most notably )

 

[SJ76]

Also if you're looking for excellence in different systems with different teammates. And carrying worse rosters to titles. Or rebounds or assists. More to the game than scoring.

MJ might be GOAT, but it's close

Lol no it’s not close. Magic has 28 more triple Doubles than Bron in 10 less years!!

that’s Brons comp.

Magic > Lebron unless you’re stuck on longevity

But hey maybe Bron plays until he’s 50 determined to try to catch the GOAT

Also in far less years

 

[msgkings322]

Kareem is the GOAT by so much it's not even worth debating really

MJ and LBJ both have an argument for 2nd along with a few others ( Magic, Kobe, Russell and Duncan most notably )

How do you put Kareem over LeBron? Kareem's case was longevity, scoring title, etc.

 

[msgkings322]

Lol no it’s not close. Magic has 28 more triple Doubles than Bron in 10 less years!!

that’s Brons comp.

Magic > Lebron unless you’re stuck on longevity

But hey maybe Bron plays until he’s 50 determined to try to catch the GOAT

Also in far less years

Adorable

 

[dtgold88]

Yes Lebron has played in way more games so he will have more points rebounds etc.

Points per game however he can’t hold MJs jock and he’s played in a much less physical league. MJ average what today? 35? 38?

And then there is the rings. Lol

But if you’re looking for longevity Lebron is your guy

he's your guy for efficiency, too.

 

[SJ76]

he's your guy for efficiency, too.

Sure

 

[SJ76]

I’m thinking Jordan would average 36-37 a game today. Maybe more

@broncosmitty dammit what say you?

 

[Wamu]

Booohooo lol. Here is his cred

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How many time you gonna post that in here?

Since you keep listing stuff that's in MJ's favor LeBron's a better rebounder, a much better passer and a better 3-point shooter.

LeBron's averaged at least 6 assists in a season 20 years in a row. MJ averaged at least 6 assists 3x in 15 years.

I guess saying MJ's the GOAT just isn't enough for you.

 

[dtgold88]

I’m thinking Jordan would average 36-37 a game today. Maybe more

@broncosmitty dammit what say you?

so barely more than where the leading scorer was before he was hurt, sport?

 

[SJ76]

How many time you gonna post that in here?

Since you keep listing stuff that's in MJ's favor LeBron's a better rebounder, a much better passer and a better 3-point shooter.

LeBron's averaged at least 6 assists in a season 20 years in a row. MJ averaged at least 6 assists 3x in 15 years.

I guess saying MJ's the GOAT just isn't enough for you.

Yes that’s all good and true. But your butt still seems very sore for some reason

 

[SJ76]

so barely more than where the leading scorer was before he was hurt, sport?

Good point. So 40? Lol

Asking for all the super fans

 

[msgkings322]

Good point. So 40? Lol

Asking for all the super fans

Here you'll like this (underrated movie)

 

[trojanfan12]

And then there is the rings. Lol

Lebron has been to more finals and dragged arguably the least talented team to make an NBA finals with no other star player. MJ never did that.

Are you claiming that getting to the finals and losing is worse than not making it?

 

[dtgold88]

Good point. So 40? Lol

Asking for all the super fans

If just making it up anyway why stop at 40?

 

[dtgold88]

Lebron has been to more finals and dragged arguably the least talented team to make an NBA finals with no other star player. MJ never did that.

Are you claiming that getting to the finals and losing is worse than not making it?

That's the one that has never made any sense. and how about winning 2 games in the Finals with Delly as his Robin?

 

[tlance]

Recruiting in college isn’t anywhere the same as how NBA players and colluding is. You know better than that, come on.

Didn’t say it was the same.

You just don’t like that the NBA players have agency and have the ability to create their own destiny instead of relying on a GM or coach to do it.

 

[SJ76]

Lebron has been to more finals and dragged arguably the least talented team to make an NBA finals with no other star player. MJ never did that.

Are you claiming that getting to the finals and losing is worse than not making it?

I look at it all. Yes he did that. Yes the East was pretty weak. Yes the Warriors were strong. Jordan’s Eastern conference when young was not weak.

All that. Bron Is still not the GOAT.

Also when you play many more year, chances are you are gonna have more of everything.

 

[SJ76]

If just making it up anyway why stop at 40?

It was a question that you are avoiding. Truth is we have no idea but it would be a lot