Series Thread: M's Rest Of Season Thread 2021

[NWinAZ]

 

[ulmax]

your basic...ace market...for the offseason........

Zack Greinke	SP	37.9	R	R	HOU	$35,000,000	$9,032,025
Trevor Bauer	SP	30.7	R	R	LAD	$35,333,333	-
Justin Verlander	SP	38.6	R	R	HOU	$33,000,000	-
Clayton Kershaw	SP	33.5	L	L	LAD	$31,000,000	$31,810,686
Max Scherzer	SP	37.2	R	R	LAD	$34,603,480	$35,568,665
Johnny Cueto	SP	35.6	R	R	SF	$22,000,000	-
Marcus Stroman	SP	30.3	R	R	NYM	$18,900,000	$21,040,096
Kevin Gausman	SP	30.7	L	R	SF	$18,900,000	$22,474,866

i expect L>A> DODGERS............+ to sign thee own guys.........Kershaw and taylor....but who knows

Max ScherzerMax Scherzer said Clayton Kershaw shared some nice words after the outing. “Hopefully I’m here and be able to watch his 3,000th strikeout as well,” Scherzer said. Kershaw is at 2653....well..he may want..to stay in ..L.A......
but hopefully..hewill at least consider..the...mariners...

bauer...may be ....flailing...that..is too bad....for him...we will ...see ...cuz ...nothing i know...of has ...came out about it...but i dont check on those ....kind of things.......but it could ruin his basebal...career..anyway.......moving on

Zack Greinke/..The right-hander says his arm feels great, and although having regressed speed behind his pitches, Greinke isn’t feeling soreness like he has before early in spring training. While having a 4.03..not 1st on my list..cuz of..regresstion/............

Justin Verlander 35 IL-60..One injured player who won't rejoin the Astros this season: Justin Verlander. Verlander had Tommy John surgery last October, and
Verlander, 38, started Opening Day last July 24 and has not pitched since. He is scheduled to become a free agent this offseason, and although he is coming off a major arm injury, Verlander figures to appeal to contenders given his pedigree and the fact he is likely to sign a short-term contract at his age and coming off surgery. An extension with the Astros shouldn't be ruled out.

my list/.......

 

[wazzu31]

Ya!
I've been ranting for some time now about why don't players bunt up the 3rd base line when the shift is on. There is no one over there!
Heck, just a little more on it and Kelenic would have had a bunt double.

Anyway to get on base, particularly when Mitch is coming up to bat.

Wasn’t exactly asking opinions on the bunt to be the shift, more talking about how as a board we all stand on bunting when up that much.

 

[ulmax]

Free-agent righty Kevin Gausman has until 5pm ET today to decide whether he plans to accept the Giants’ $18.9MM qualifying offer or reject it in favor of fully testing free agency. While Marcus Stroman’s decision to accept the Mets’ QO led to natural speculation that Gausman would take the same route — both are represented by agent Brodie Scoffield — Gausman isn’t a lock to do so. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that Gausman has already received multi-year offers and is weighing those against the QO. The Giants are among the teams to have made a multi-year offer, Rosenthal adds.
It stands to reason that any multi-year offers for Gausman check in south of the QO’s average annual value, but historically speaking, free agents have been willing to sacrifice some AAV in order to secure a larger overall guarantee. If Gausman were to receive three-year offers in the $13-15MM range, for instance, that could certainly prompt him to forgo the heftier one-year payday.
The alternative, of course, is to take that $18.9MM sum, hope to bolster his stock with another strong year and return to free agency next winter without the burden of a qualifying offer; players can only receive one qualifying offer in their career, under the terms of the current collective bargaining agreement.
It should be emphasized that Gausman needn’t make a final decision on a multi-year contract today. All he’s required to do by this afternoon is simply accept or reject the qualifying offer. If he rejects, he could still take the coming days, weeks or even months to explore the market in hopes of securing a larger multi-year offer than the ones he has already received. The fact that Stroman is no longer on the market is surely a notable factor. Gausman was already among the market’s more appealing free-agent starters, and one of the names alongside him in the second tier (behind Trevor Bauer) is now off the board.
Bauer is in a class of his own this winter, but Gausman is arguably the best remaining option after him. Masahiro Tanaka and Jake Odorizzi join him as solid mid-rotation options, and the market also features several high-ceiling veterans looking to rebound from injury-marred campaigns (e.g. Corey Kluber, James Paxton). Charlie Morton could be deemed the second-best arm on the market, but he’s limiting himself geographically and is expected to command a short-term deal given his

| November 11, 2020 at 10:44am CDT...the same guys...seem..to be on he table this year..we will see

 

[ulmax]

Free Agent Outlook: As great as 2021 has been for Gausman, one thing he’ll have going against him is the quality of the starting pitchers in the 2022 free agent class. Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, Marcus Stroman and Robbie Ray are just a few of the quality starting pitchers set to hit the market this offseason. Even so, Gausman is certainly set to cash in on a big-money, long-term deal. Spotrac does not have a figure for Gausman’s market value, but with how well he has pitched this season it’s hard to see him getting anything less than $20M AVA.


yankees rotation..needs an overhaul'..............

Yankees’ offseason moves should include trade with A’s, big name free-agent targets, MLB insider says​

Braves Way Too Early Free Agent Targets: Kevin Gausman​

 

[ulmax]

if they dont sign with the clubs they are with...then seattle will prob be in on

Max Scherzer
Kevin Gausman
if the mariners...play...and miss...........then Justin Verlander 35 IL
or

Noah Syndergaard

SP

29.0

L

R

NYM

$9,700,000

both off tommy john......
after that..who knows........

 

[ulmax]

left handed..possible....aces

Wade Miley..L/L
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CIN	NL	12	7	3.37	28	28	1	1	0	0	0	163.0	166	64	61	17	2592	3	50	0	125	.265	1.33	1.45
MLB Career	-	-	97	92	4.15	283	277	3	2	0	0	0	1581.0	1632	777	729	175	26230	39	549	10	1252	.267	1.38	1.39

Robbie Ray..L/L
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TOR	AL	13	6	2.68	31	31	0	0	0	0	0	188.0	146	57	56	29	3041	4	49	0	244	.210	1.04	0.72
MLB Career	-	-	62	57	3.97	192	188	1	1	1	0	0	1030.1	911	487	455	152	18151	34	450	19	1286	.236	1.32	0.89

if mainers think he can ..keep ..up the good stuff...he may be the best choice...lol

 

[ulmax]

with..
Dylan Bundy
Carlos Rodon
on the list as well

and..a..,maybe on
Corey Kluber

2021

NYY

15

15

75.1

67

35

32

32

80

8

5

3

0

3.82

1.314

1.28

Danny Duffy

WAR
2021	KC	13	12	61.0	52	19	17	22	65	6	4	3	0	2.51	1.213	2.1

that..is enough guys..they ..should get one...by then........

 

[blstoker]

Wasn’t exactly asking opinions on the bunt to be the shift, more talking about how as a board we all stand on bunting when up that much.

Honestly, I'm ok with it. First, game isn't over. Second, if you bunt on the shift, it may make them play more honest in the next game. Third, large leads is a time to work on things, and no matter who's at the plate, nearly every MLBer needs to work on their bunting.

 

[Podunkparte]

Baltimore beats Boston!

 

[Podunkparte]

And Stanton goes deep! 3 run shot makes it 6-2 over Toronto

 

[ulmax]

mariners rotation..with a LH ace

Carlos Rodon

2021

CHW

23

23

127.2

90

39

35

34

181

13

12

5

0

2.47

0.971

4.6

Chris Flexen 77

Marco Gonzales 7..L/L

Logan Gilbert 36 Tyler Anderson 31 justin Dunn 35 Yusei Kikuchi 18..spot start....long relief..for right hander..and /or a few inings as well Matt Brash 47

 

[ulmax]

Spotrac

✔@spotrac
The #Mets aren’t relevant, but Noah Syndergaard’s start tonight, his first since September 2019, certainly is.

The 29 year old is set to become a free agent this winter, & a healthy Thor can upgrade any staff. Plenty of teams will b

 

[Destroydacre]

Honestly, I'm ok with it. First, game isn't over. Second, if you bunt on the shift, it may make them play more honest in the next game. Third, large leads is a time to work on things, and no matter who's at the plate, nearly every MLBer needs to work on their bunting.

Agreed, I've never understood the thought that you should stop playing when your team has a big lead. Like last year I think when people got pissed when Tatis hit a grand slam when up big. Who cares? Game is still being played, mash that thing.

 

[Destroydacre]

Good to see the M's get the lead, but 4 runners left in scoring position already. Gotta get those guys in.

 

[Podunkparte]

Castillo's lack of real command has been a problem lately.

 

[wazzu31]

Agreed, I've never understood the thought that you should stop playing when your team has a big lead. Like last year I think when people got pissed when Tatis hit a grand slam when up big. Who cares? Game is still being played, mash that thing.

It is the weird unspoken rules of baseball. What Tatis should’ve led to either him or Machado getting blasted. Not advocating for him to get drilled but on different times with different management it could’ve caused a big deal. But seems consensus it we were all cool with it.

 

[Destroydacre]

Castillo's lack of real command has been a problem lately.

Agreed. Guy never seems to have a 1-2-3 inning. Reminds me of Rodney.

 

[Podunkparte]

Mitch is hot.

Top stories at 11.

 

[Destroydacre]

Half game out of a playoff spot with 4 left. Wow