Mock Offseason v1.0

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Fowler.

 

[snookdad]

I want a CB or a pass Rusher DE in the 1st round. In the 2nd round Brett Hundley. QB isn't exactly a need so realistically how bout one of the RB's Wisconsin's guy, Georgia's guy or Nebraska's guy. I really want Hundley though even if he sits for 2 yrs. Yes it might be a wasted resource but then again if Romo goes down he's be a guy I'd like to have.

 

[UK Cowboy]

To me, it's gonna be hard to tell where Dallas goes in the draft until we see what they do in FA and resigning their own players. You would think it will be defense early and often, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys take the same approach to FA as last year, signing 4-5 solid if unspectacular players to help the defense, allowing them to go with the best player available in draft, even if that guy is an OL or RB

I also think the Seattle offer to MLynch will make it very difficult for the Cowboys to sign Murray to a longterm deal. I think they may restructure Romo so that they can franchise or transition tag Murray and keep the offense together intact for at least another year

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

To me, it's gonna be hard to tell where Dallas goes in the draft until we see what they do in FA and resigning their own players. You would think it will be defense early and often, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys take the same approach to FA as last year, signing 4-5 solid if unspectacular players to help the defense, allowing them to go with the best player available in draft, even if that guy is an OL or RB

I also think the Seattle offer to MLynch will make it very difficult for the Cowboys to sign Murray to a longterm deal. I think they may restructure Romo so that they can franchise or transition tag Murray and keep the offense together intact for at least another year

All depends on Dez. No way Dez doesn't get the tag if he doesn't have a deal in place by the tag deadline. If that is so, you can only do either or, not both on franchise/transition. I think Murray deserves to get paid, and will get paid by a team like Jags, or Oakland. Lynch hasn't signed anything yet, so until he does, it's like Murray said all speculation, "we need to see the numbers before talking about it"...in other words, Murray is a wise man, he knows Lynch could get a 10M per average but only have a true value of about 5-6M.

I think Romo and Ty get restructured no matter what. I also hate to see Murray go, but I think he will be gone. You are right about FA, it affects all draft plans for the NFL.

 

[UK Cowboy]

All depends on Dez. No way Dez doesn't get the tag if he doesn't have a deal in place by the tag deadline. If that is so, you can only do either or, not both on franchise/transition. I think Murray deserves to get paid, and will get paid by a team like Jags, or Oakland. Lynch hasn't signed anything yet, so until he does, it's like Murray said all speculation, "we need to see the numbers before talking about it"...in other words, Murray is a wise man, he knows Lynch could get a 10M per average but only have a true value of about 5-6M.

I think Romo and Ty get restructured no matter what. I also hate to see Murray go, but I think he will be gone. You are right about FA, it affects all draft plans for the NFL.

Dez is on record as wanting to stay in Dallas, and Jerry wants him, I would bet that gets done pretty soon, and probably at an insane overall number that can be reworked over the years. The Randle arrest pretty much seals the deal on the Cowboys tagging Murray IMO. Randle will be suspended by the League, if not the Cowboys, and I can't imagine Jerry being this close and going in with a rookie starting RB, though it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Dallas take a back high in the draft

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Hey Nets, what's the number if Murray hypothetically gets tagged?

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Hey Nets, what's the number if Murray hypothetically gets tagged?

New CBA is very complicated when it comes to things like this. For instance it all depends on the salary cap, and what it is. Just using the 142M projection his number would be 10.85M, it would be higher or lower depending on if the cap is higher or lower. Each position bases the tag off a percentage the RB tag is 7.643% of the total salary cap.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Also PE1 you can take that percentage and multiply it into any Cap Number and get the tag amount for Murray this year when final numbers come out next month.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Dez is on record as wanting to stay in Dallas, and Jerry wants him, I would bet that gets done pretty soon, and probably at an insane overall number that can be reworked over the years. The Randle arrest pretty much seals the deal on the Cowboys tagging Murray IMO. Randle will be suspended by the League, if not the Cowboys, and I can't imagine Jerry being this close and going in with a rookie starting RB, though it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Dallas take a back high in the draft

I was on record as saying I wanted to stay living in Houston with the company I'm at; but when the company offered me a substantial amount more to move to Dallas, I relocated lol. Same with Dez, the NFL is the company Cowboys are Houston in this case and another team could be the relocation in this instance. So what do you do to block that if you don't have a contract signed, you tag him. No chances taken. I signed a one year contract to relocate, my heart was to stay in Houston when my last contract with the company expired, and while I wanted to stay in Houston a better opportunity opened for me and my future. As they say shit happens lol.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I was on record as saying I wanted to stay living in Houston with the company I'm at; but when the company offered me a substantial amount more to move to Dallas, I relocated lol. Same with Dez, the NFL is the company Cowboys are Houston in this case and another team could be the relocation in this instance. So what do you do to block that if you don't have a contract signed, you tag him. No chances taken. I signed a one year contract to relocate, my heart was to stay in Houston when my last contract with the company expired, and while I wanted to stay in Houston a better opportunity opened for me and my future. As they say shit happens lol.

Can't go wrong either way Brother, you'er still in Texas
I was reading the other day that the Cowboys could clear up to $45 million in capo space. Now we all know that doing that would mean pushing money back, which limits what can be done in the future. It will be interesting to see which way the Cowboys go....If Stephen and McClay make the call, I could see Murray leaving, the Cowboys continuing to get their cap in order and building primarily through the draft.....but I don't think that's how it's gonna go....Jerry wants that last ring more than anything in the world, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if Dez is signed longterm, Murray is tagged, and an impact defender or two is signed. I think Jerry won't be able to stop himself from going for it. If they don't, it's a new day in Dallas....

 

[jarntt]

New CBA is very complicated when it comes to things like this. For instance it all depends on the salary cap, and what it is. Just using the 142M projection his number would be 10.85M, it would be higher or lower depending on if the cap is higher or lower. Each position bases the tag off a percentage the RB tag is 7.643% of the total salary cap.

Also depends which tag.

Since it's a rolling average are the %'s updated already to include 2014? I thought we were stilll waiting for that, but maybe it was just the new cap figure thats not yet out.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

I thought the tag price came from the average salary of the 5 highest paid players at that position? Interesting Nets.

It will be cool to see how this all works out and where Murray, Suh, JPP all wind up. FA really isn't that far away.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

Dallas is really close. In 2004 people thought Philly got to the SB by landing TO and the Freak but they also nailed that draft. They had no secondary cause Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent left and they hit on Lito Shepperd, Sheldon Brown and Michael Lewis with their first 3 picks. Damn, I hope we can do that this year.

 

[jarntt]

I thought the tag price came from the average salary of the 5 highest paid players at that position? Interesting Nets.

It will be cool to see how this all works out and where Murray, Suh, JPP all wind up. FA really isn't that far away.

Used to. Now it's the % of total cap dollars allocated to the positon over the last 5 years. Makes you wonder if it's dropping for RBs the way their salaries seem to be going down lately.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Can't go wrong either way Brother, you'er still in Texas
I was reading the other day that the Cowboys could clear up to $45 million in capo space. Now we all know that doing that would mean pushing money back, which limits what can be done in the future. It will be interesting to see which way the Cowboys go....If Stephen and McClay make the call, I could see Murray leaving, the Cowboys continuing to get their cap in order and building primarily through the draft.....but I don't think that's how it's gonna go....Jerry wants that last ring more than anything in the world, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if Dez is signed longterm, Murray is tagged, and an impact defender or two is signed. I think Jerry won't be able to stop himself from going for it. If they don't, it's a new day in Dallas....

Not pushing much dead money back at all to be honest. The more I think about it, the more logical it seems to restructure Romo. You have a 4 year window to get it done. So if you don't get it done with Romo either way you are screwed lol, so why not go for it?

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Also depends which tag.

Since it's a rolling average are the %'s updated already to include 2014? I thought we were stilll waiting for that, but maybe it was just the new cap figure thats not yet out.

To answer you are correct about the % being out already. Reason you can do the % is because all vet contracts are guaranteed for the year once the season starts, so all of 2014 RB salaries are already figured, so you can figure out the % based on that. Hope this helps. The only thing we are waiting for is the 2015 cap to see how much the tag will actually be due to the higher the cap total, the higher the tag number.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

I thought the tag price came from the average salary of the 5 highest paid players at that position? Interesting Nets.

It will be cool to see how this all works out and where Murray, Suh, JPP all wind up. FA really isn't that far away.

Yes it is very complicated now to be honest, because restructures of RB's come into play as well for the tag.

 

[NetsGotBanned21]

Used to. Now it's the % of total cap dollars allocated to the positon over the last 5 years. Makes you wonder if it's dropping for RBs the way their salaries seem to be going down lately.

I think eventually it drops, but as of now it continues to rise. Then again numbers are inflated with the rise of the cap, so it probably won't drop. 2014 RB tag was 9.54M on the % and a 142M cap 2015 tag will be 10.85M so almost 1.5M higher. That has a lot to do with Shady, Charles, AP, and Lynch......so we will see because AP's deal will be a lot lower next year, then you have to figure Chiefs will restructure Charles deal, but it is off of a 5 year window too. So in other words time will tell.

 

[jarntt]

Didn't mean the salary was dropping, meant the % that RBs were earning as compared to the Cap in total. Because of the expected increase in the cap the franchise tag salary itself will go up for sure.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Not pushing much dead money back at all to be honest. The more I think about it, the more logical it seems to restructure Romo. You have a 4 year window to get it done. So if you don't get it done with Romo either way you are screwed lol, so why not go for it?

I think that's how it will go. I can't imagine Jerry trying for so long to break out of mediocrity, finally building a team that is really close, and then letting Murray walk?? Nope, hard to imagine. As you said, 1-2 year window, which really could be a 2-3 year window with Romo, I doubt his back allows him to play till he's nearly 40.


Everyone has talked about the trouble Dallas will have signing Dez and Murray, but the reality is, they could sign Dez, Murray, AND Ndamakong Suh, crazy as it sounds. Get Lee back healthy, draft heavy on D......definitely pie in the sky, but I'd bet anything Jerry has considered it