Luka for AD

[tc1]

Who are my other two? LOL if you want to be taken seriously skip the clown shit. You clearly know some stuff, well so do we. Welcome aboard but gay posts will be ridiculed.

If you're embarrassed to say, then you didn't have to bring it up.

There are more than two possibilities. Someone recently suggested -- maybe not here, I cannot remember -- with an apparently straight face, that Bird ought to be in that group. I have heard ridiculous people suggest that Duncan ought to be.

It also depends on how one approaches the problem -- entire career, peak decade, peak half-decade, etc. How much credit do you give for longevity?

It's difficult to construct parameters for this selection that lead to 3 clear-cut choices that absolutely everyone agrees on.

Just for example, Mikan was the most dominant player in NBA history by far -- he never lost a playoff series while healthy, and retired simply because the game was insufficiently challenging to him. Yet I suspect that he's probably not on your list. I bet Chamberlain isn't either, and he was outrageously dominant by other metrics.

 

[Shanemansj13]

A rental is when the player plays out the contract and LEAVES the team in FA....

Holy Hell, this is basic sports stuff.

The kid thinks he knows everything when in actuality he is just spewing crap to support his opinions

 

[tc1]

And believe it or not, the Lakers don’t just do whatever Clutch wants them to.

That's a claim that many Laker fans disagree with. More to the point, do you think his clients all do his bidding? I doubt it. So if Davis, for example, chafed at playing in James' shadow, he might well leave without regard to the effect of the James-Paul relationship.

Again, find a link where Davis actually interviewed with another team.

He's not an intern.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I felt like this was a joke from a parody account…

But Shams confirmed it.

Why did Dallas choose to get older???

As constructed before the trade, Dallas had little chance of winning a championship - Irving and Luka is too many guards - but Dallas had a concern about the future of Luka and his health - they were not willing to give him a maximum contract when the season is over. SportsHoopla says he has one mre year though.

With Davis, they have a chance of a quality center playing with Irving and making some noise - Klay will probably become a three point specialist

This was a good trade for the Lakers who can build around Luka after LeBron retire - Davis at the best in my opinion is a #2 option. If the Lakers were to get lucky and get a legitmate center - they have a chance this year

 

[tc1]

Cmon man. If you are going to debate at least throw out the facts. It was never a rental, not even in your land of makebelieve

It was precisely a rental, and Rich Paul told everyone who would listen that entire year that Davis would not sign an extension with anyone. He was going to finish his contract, and go UFA, and assess his options. Which is precisely what he did.

That is a matter of public record, and you can look it up, if you so choose.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Makes no sense. Move on from one of the most dedicated men to the game, to a fat whiny Euro who milks injuries.

They can’t be that sick of his act, or they wouldn’t keep Bronnie around.

I don't believe that the Lakers are trying to send that message to Lebron - but they did get him the closest thing to a Dwayne Wade or Irving as possible - and Luka is young enough for the future when Lebron retires.

 

[tlance]

That's a claim that many Laker fans disagree with. More to the point, do you think his clients all do his bidding? I doubt it. So if Davis, for example, chafed at playing in James' shadow, he might well leave without regard to the effect of the James-Paul relationship.



He's not an intern.

Nope.

He interviews the team to decide if wants to sign with them.

Except he didn’t. Because he was always going back to the Lakers.

 

[DJ Fieri]

As constructed before the trade, Dallas had little chance of winning a championship - Irving and Luka is too many guards - but Dallas had a concern about the future of Luka and his health - they were not willing to give him a maximum contract when the season is over. SportsHoopla says he has one mre year though.

With Davis, they have a chance of a quality center playing with Irving and making some noise - Klay will probably become a three point specialist

Are you sure about Klay becoming a 3 point specialist?

I am a little skeptical....LOL.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Nope.

He interviews the team to decide if wants to sign with them.

Except he didn’t. Because he was always going back to the Lakers.

Everybody knew that back then.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Are you sure about Klay becoming a 3 point specialist?

I am a little skeptical....LOL.

That's about as close as they have and he was pretty good at Golden State . For me he is what Ron Artest aka Metta World Nutcase was - Come in at the last few minutes and try some miracle threes.

 

[trojanfan12]

If you're embarrassed to say, then you didn't have to bring it up.

If you don't know the other 2...it is you who should be embarrassed.

There are more than two possibilities.

No, there really are not. At least not that would be taken seriously.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's not an intern.

So, you can't find a link then?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

That's a claim that many Laker fans disagree with. More to the point, do you think his clients all do his bidding? I doubt it. So if Davis, for example, chafed at playing in James' shadow, he might well leave without regard to the effect of the James-Paul relationship.



He's not an intern.

That's fantasy there that has never happened. It's a business and while the Lakers have tried to build around Lebron with LeBron's approval - They have certain limitations.

 

[trojanfan12]

That is a matter of public record, and you can look it up, if you so choose.

Not how it works. You're making the claim...you provide the link to back it up.

 

[DJ Fieri]

So, you can't find a link then?

He's lying his ass off.

 

[tc1]

If you don't know the other 2...it is you who should be embarrassed.

Like i said, there are more than 3.

No, there really are not. At least not that would be taken seriously.

Most of the people of this opinion tend to under 40 years old, and lacking historical context.

It is, for example, exceedingly difficult to construct parameters that include only 3 of Abdul-Jabbar, James, Johnson, Jordan, Mikan, and Chamberlain. Jordan, for one example, has a number of big black marks on his resume, with respect to inclusion into this club -- but I fear I may have just extended this thread by another 10 pages. When I hear someone claim that Jordan is unquestionably the greatest, I know that person has a very poor grasp of basketball history and/or has framed the problem intentionally to reach their preferred answer.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's lying his ass off.

Of course he is.

I don't have very high hopes for this noob.

Comes in all "flame on" and can't back up his shit.

 

[tc1]

Not how it works. You're making the claim...you provide the link to back it up.

I even have to, enough though you claimed to know everything about everything since 1970? What a conundrum for you.

No one else is providing evidence for their nonsense, and I'm educating many of your for free, on my own time, so if you want me to do your research too, you may have to become accustomed to disappointment.

 

[tc1]

Of course he is.

I don't have very high hopes for this noob.

I must say, I had higher hopes for this group in terms of basketball knowledge. It's turning out to be thin on the ground.

Comes in all "flame on" and can't back up his shit.

I've backed up plenty of material so far -- and people either can't or won't read it. So you should expect that to appear in reduced frequency going forward.

And, I did not come in "flame on", which is again, a matter of public record in these very threads. I merely corrected some misinformation that was being bandied about, and several people got in their feelings about that, and remain there, unfortunately. Hopefully after they nap, they will remember that this is just an internet forum.

 

[trojanfan12]

Like i said, there are more than 3.

Except there aren't.

Most of the people of this opinion tend to under 40 years old, and lacking historical context.

Wrong again.

I have followed the NBA and Lakers since 1970. I saw most of Kareems career, all of Magic's, all of MJ's, all of Lebrons and all of just about anyone else that has been in the GOAT discussion except for Bill Russell.

The convo used to be MJ, Kareem and Magic...it is now MJ, Kareem and Lebron. No one else has a case.