Luka for AD

[tc1]

He did not say that.

Find the quote.

Not everything that happens is told to a newspaper.

Was in everyone’s best interest for AD to stay home. And NOT because AD was a cancer.

They get to tank and get a better pick, they don’t risk devaluing their trade asset and they can move forward developing players who would be on the team moving forward.

Staying home is completely different from not playing. If they just benched him, that would be one thing -- but they made him go away because he was detrimental to the team at that point.

That is the definition of a cancer.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Alvin Gentry -- his coach who agreed to have him sent away from the team.

I'm done with this ridiculous nonsense.

Gentry never said AD was a cancer.

Liar.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I shouldn't even waste my time on you, because I'm fairly sure you are illiterate or trolling, but you are seriously suggesting that John Richardson, Hassan Whiteside, and a heavily protected first is comparable to the haul the Lakers spent to rent Davis?

I would detail that haul here, but either you already know it, or you are just wasting my time.

Who is John Richardson?

 

[tlance]

Do you believe that Anthony Davis in 2020 had the single best contract year in the history of sports?

If not, then you are wrong -- because the Lakers paid more than any else ever has to rent one player for one season.



What were the warts on those upcoming draft picks, exactly? Or, are you talking out of your nether regions again.

What?

No they didn’t. Cmon man.

Lonzo was a horrendous shooter his first two seasons. Under 40% from the field and under 45% from the line. Was already being labeled a bust in a lot of circles without the injuries. Surely wasn’t worth close to what he was when the Lakers drafted him.

Ingram was showing signs of being the high level offensive player he has developed into, but was 1 year away from RFA and soon to be due a large raise and had some injury issues. Good, not great trade asset and clearly the most valuable piece in the deal at the time.

Hart was a throw in in this deal. He was viewed as an energy role guy and has developed into a lot more since landing in New York.

And the picks the Lakers dealt were also nice assets, but the draft class was extremely top heavy behind Zion and Ja.

So while the Lakers gave up a lot, any trade where Boston included Tatum and Brown ( which was a possibility before Davis said he wouldn’t resign) would have blown it out of the water.

 

[tlance]

Not everything that happens is told to a newspaper.



Staying home is completely different from not playing. If they just benched him, that would be one thing -- but they made him go away because he was detrimental to the team at that point.

That is the definition of a cancer.

You are making shit up to fit your own narrative that literally nobody else agrees with.

 

[tc1]

Oh lord another one unafraid to advertise their stupidity. Kareem was a bigger name than both...but he wasn't traded for anyone big like these 2 were. Already listed all the names of this magnitude that got traded (KD, Wilt, Shaq, etc)...none were traded for equally big names until now. Also when Kareem was traded he didn't have nearly all that hardware.

Carry on.

Please list the hardware that Davis and Doncic possess -- between them -- that Abdul-Jabbar lacked in '75.

That would be -3 MVP awards, because Kareem had 3, and these guys have zero.

 

[tc1]

What?

No they didn’t. Cmon man.

Please stop with your stupid comments. If you don't even know the details of the trade, don't comment. Remember Mark Twain's sage advice regarding fools and silence.

 

[msgkings322]

Please list the hardware that Davis and Doncic possess -- between them -- that Abdul-Jabbar lacked in '75.

That would be -3 MVP awards, because Kareem had 3, and these guys have zero.

Yes, Kareem was a bigger name than both. But he wasn't traded for anyone as big as AD.

The guy I replied to listed Kareem's 6 MVPs and so on to try to make that trade a bigger deal than this one. It wasn't. It's up there, this one is the top.

 

[msgkings322]

Please stop with your stupid comments. If you don't even know the details of the trade, don't comment. Remember Mark Twain's sage advice regarding fools and silence.

I love this. The newbie is stepping to an OG poster here. Not kidding, we needed someone new to get some sparks flying and this guy is way better than Dorian lol

 

[DJ Fieri]

I love this. The newbie is stepping to the OG poster here. Not kidding, we needed someone new to get some sparks flying and this guy is way better than Dorian lol

Bingo.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I love this. The newbie is stepping to an OG poster here. Not kidding, we needed someone new to get some sparks flying and this guy is way better than Dorian lol

Pretty sure he isn't that "new" though.

 

[tlance]

Please stop with your stupid comments. If you don't even know the details of the trade, don't comment. Remember Mark Twain's sage advice regarding fools and silence.

I laid it out for you clear as day.

You trying to act like the Pelicans received some type of GOAT trade haul.

Not even close my dude.

That package does not win AD without his demand limiting the field, and the Lakers jumping up to get the 4th pick in the lotto.

 

[tc1]

Yes, Kareem was a bigger name than both. But he wasn't traded for anyone as big as AD.

He was bigger than both combined. He was by far and away the best player the world had seen, and he's still the best now. Do you not recall how the NCAA was forced to ban dunking to try and stop him -- and he still went 88-2 in college, with one loss while basically blind in one eye? He was, by all accounts, the second-best player in the world at 15 years old.

Had he been allowed to turn pro when he was sufficiently good, James would still be chasing his points record for years.

 

[tc1]

I laid it out for you clear as day.

You trying to act like the Pelicans received some type of GOAT trade haul.

Find a bigger one, for a one year rental. There are none, in any sport.

You are, as usual, utterly and completely wrong. You missed a whole bunch of the trade.

 

[tlance]

Find a bigger one, for a one year rental. There are none, in any sport.

You are, as usual, utterly and completely wrong. You missed a whole bunch of the trade.

He was not a 1 year rental.

He clearly said his preference was to play for the Lakers. Which is why the make the deal and nobody else tried to beat it.

And you are kind of making my point that AD was the most valuable trade asset in the league at the time if you believe what you are writing.

There are plenty that beat it.

The Celtics got more from the Nets for old men KG and Pierce. Most deals that involve 4+ picks and swaps is as valuable because again, those Laker pieces (Ingram and Ball) did not have as much value at the time they were dealt as they did when they were drafted.

I laid out why, and you have said nothing to refute any of it.

 

[msgkings322]

He was bigger than both combined. He was by far and away the best player the world had seen, and he's still the best now. Do you not recall how the NCAA was forced to ban dunking to try and stop him -- and he still went 88-2 in college, with one loss while basically blind in one eye? He was, by all accounts, the second-best player in the world at 15 years old.

Had he been allowed to turn pro when he was sufficiently good, James would still be chasing his points record for years.

Kareem is definitely one of the 3 players that have any reasonable case for GOAT

 

[tc1]

He was not a 1 year rental.

Holy hell. He had one year left on his deal, which played out. That's a rental. Learn thing one about the topic.

He clearly said his preference was to play for the Lakers. Which is why the make the deal and nobody else tried to beat it.

No, he did not, and after his contract expired, he did the standard free agent road show and talked to other teams before signed as a UFA with the Lakers.

If no one else tried to beat it, why would the Lakers offer the richest package in sport history for him? For a zero-time MVP with injury issues.

And you are kind of making my point that AD was the most valuable trade asset in the league at the time if you believe what you are writing.

No, he was not. He was the one who got traded. Others did not.

There are plenty that beat it.

The Celtics got more from the Nets for old men KG and Pierce.

Can you even count? KG and Pierce are not one player.

Most deals that involve 4+ picks and swaps is as valuable because again, those Laker pieces (Ingram and Ball) did not have as much value at the time they were dealt as they did when they were drafted.

None of those were for single-player rentals -- and you are ignoring the half-dozen players the Lakers also traded in that deal.

I laid out why, and you have said nothing to refute any of it.

You have literally been wrong in just about every single comment so far, which I have tirelessly and painstakingly educated you on. "Thank you" would be more appropriate.

 

[DJ Fieri]

He was not a 1 year rental.

He clearly said his preference was to play for the Lakers. Which is why the make the deal and nobody else tried to beat it.

And you are kind of making my point that AD was the most valuable trade asset in the league at the time if you believe what you are writing.

There are plenty that beat it.

The Celtics got more from the Nets for old men KG and Pierce. Most deals that involve 4+ picks and swaps is as valuable because again, those Laker pieces (Ingram and Ball) did not have as much value at the time they were dealt as they did when they were drafted.

I laid out why, and you have said nothing to refute any of it.

The whole rental thing makes 0 sense.....LOL.

 

[DJ Fieri]

A rental is when the player plays out the contract and LEAVES the team in FA....

Holy Hell, this is basic sports stuff.

 

[trojanfan12]

Holy hell. He had one year left on his deal, which played out. That's a rental. Learn thing one about the topic.

That's not a 1 year rental because AD was always going to sign the extension with the Lakers.

A rental is bringing in a guy with one year left on his deal knowing you're unlikely to re-sign him, but he fills a need.

Or a guy looking for a "make good" deal where he signs for a lesser amount hoping to play himself into a nice raise in the off-season.