Let the chips fall where the may.

[YankeeRebel]

Hmnm seems this was mentioned here by a few people that understand the game.

Former NFL QB Blasts Patriots: 'Most Predictable Offense in the NFL'

Former NFL QB Dan Orlovsky delivered some harsh criticism of the New England Patriots and their 17th-ranked scoring offense.

heavy.com

 

[YankeeRebel]

At least it's not this.

After Jets' bad loss to the Jaguars, Zach Wilson starting to look like a lost cause

The Jets have a real dilemma with their young quarterback.

www.yahoo.com

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Wrong drama Queen I have said all day whether it be once or twice in one day. I have maintained all along that Mac is only a part of the problem and the failures of the O line and Patricia are the larger part of the problem. I specifically detailed how last year everybody was all about Mac. I asked what dynamic has changed? You are just too damn stubborn to admit that is what I said and you are wrong. In the end it matters little most of your input is opinion and not fact a trait you and BigKen seem to share.

Quit reading after drama queen. You and Mac should get together.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Ahh and there it is again presented a fact and chooses to ignore it b/c it doesn't fit the narrative in this case lie you are weaving. Pros get upset they show their emotions it happens.

Pros earn respect. They earn the lattitude to be able to call out team mates and coaches.

Mac hasn't earned shit. FACT

Mac is quickly becoming the NFL bitch boy. FACT

He hasn't even won a playoff game. FACT

Moronic for anyone to compare him to Brady. FACT

PM me your address, I'll send you money for Christmas so you can buy a friggen clue.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Well apparently, the head coach seems to agree with him. LOL

There will be camp competition next year if any QB can earn the job and take away the #1 status from Mac then cool, otherwise it's just further proof you have no idea how all this works.

That coach has proven time and again that he is narcassistic. He won't be made to look the fool. FACT

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Hmnm seems this was mentioned here by a few people that understand the game.

Former NFL QB Blasts Patriots: 'Most Predictable Offense in the NFL'

Former NFL QB Dan Orlovsky delivered some harsh criticism of the New England Patriots and their 17th-ranked scoring offense.

heavy.com

Really? Dan who is your source? Wow you are far worse off then I thought.

I think I'll tag this for later. This is a classic.

Keep reaching, lol

 

[nefansince75]

Shhh BK you'll offend the one resident on Mac Island. Sad thing is that individual doesn't even realize he's the sole castaway.

He's not alone. I still think Mac has redemption in him. I'm fine with everyone venting and have nothing to offer contrary.

 

[BigKen]

Vince Wilfork said last night that he would be drooling if he played defense against Mac Jones.
He's hesitant and takes an extra second or two to release.
His eye to brain recognition may be a problem when checking down.
He's horribly slow moving in the pocket and tends to go back instead of stepping up and releasing.
He shows way too much frustration and defenses feed of it because they immediately assume that they are the cause and it pumps them up.

Nothing like a former All-Pro to tell it like it is.

 

[nefansince75]

Apples to oranges

More like apples to apples but Granny Smiths to Honey Crisps. It's a lot closer than you see. "Earning the right" or "win something first" is just a part of a perception. If Mac wins and some days runs over someone for a first down then all will be forgiven.

 

[BigKen]

Here are some actual facts.

Mac has the worst QBR since returning from his two rest after spraining his ankle.

Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan and Zach Wilson have all been benched and have a better QBR than Mac.

Since returning he has a 58.6% completion rate, 7 TDs and 8 INTs.

When Bill was asked if he'd consider benching Mac his response was, "I will do what's necessary to beat the Cincinnati Bengals."

 

[nefansince75]

That coach has proven time and again that he is narcassistic. He won't be made to look the fool. FACT

Actually, that's an opinion.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Pros earn respect. They earn the lattitude to be able to call out team mates and coaches.

Mac hasn't earned shit. FACT

Mac is quickly becoming the NFL bitch boy. FACT

He hasn't even won a playoff game. FACT

Moronic for anyone to compare him to Brady. FACT

PM me your address, I'll send you money for Christmas so you can buy a friggen clue.

How much of a dumb **** must you be to post all opinion and then claim it as fact? LMAO losing debates is really not your strong suit. Maybe you and BK can guzzle each others hot sperm and call it eggnog.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Really? Dan who is your source? Wow you are far worse off then I thought.

I think I'll tag this for later. This is a classic.

Keep reaching, lol

Again you prove your level of idiocy. A former NFL QB states what many others have said about how basic this offense is but you know better. LOL What insufferable douche

 

[YankeeRebel]

Vince Wilfork said last night that he would be drooling if he played defense against Mac Jones.
He's hesitant and takes an extra second or two to release.
His eye to brain recognition may be a problem when checking down.
He's horribly slow moving in the pocket and tends to go back instead of stepping up and releasing.
He shows way too much frustration and defenses feed of it because they immediately assume that they are the cause and it pumps them up.

Nothing like a former All-Pro to tell it like it is.

Link..... And I am sure he would as porous as the O line is.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Here are some actual facts.

Mac has the worst QBR since returning from his two rest after spraining his ankle.

Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan and Zach Wilson have all been benched and have a better QBR than Mac.

Since returning he has a 58.6% completion rate, 7 TDs and 8 INTs.

When Bill was asked if he'd consider benching Mac his response was, "I will do what's necessary to beat the Cincinnati Bengals."

Way to cherry pick BK.

And are you proposing this is all on Mac

 

[sonnyblack65]

That coach has proven time and again that he is narcassistic. He won't be made to look the fool. FACT

100% spot on. NFL sends out the memo before the 07 season, saying where and where you cannot film. He "misinterprets the rules" even though he is the smartest guy in the room . against a bottom Jets team they beat by like 40 points and going up an ex-assistant, not too bright. Cost Patriots a 1st round pick, plus a black eye with dopes calling the team the Cheatriots. And then with questioned about Deflategate, he threw Brady right under the bus "go ask Tom, he is the QB" I have never seen a HC in any sport do that before, self preservation and not defend a player. Not 1 type of explanation like the temp, lets see the other team's balls psi etc etc.

 

[BigKen]

And are you proposing this is all on Mac

You need to take a break. Insulting others is not a way to win an argument or make a valid point.

Please explain how a QB Rating can be placed on anyone but the QB?

No one else is throwing the football. Every other quarterback is measured by the exact same criteria. The QBs I mentioned have equally bad offensive lines and WRs. They all have better numbers because they at least try to improve themselves every week. Mac thinks that by throwing a weekly hissy fit that he puts his failures on others.

This entire forum knows that you are locked into Mac Jones and will now defend him to the death. So be it. The rest of us believe that we are seeing what the real Mac Jones is. A great QB when surrounded by a great team. A sucky QB otherwise.

Blame everyone else, the proof is in the pudding every week. Mac Jones can't hack it when things don't go his way.

The Bengal defense is a high speed, quick moving bunch. Expect him to eat a lot of Foxboro turf if he can't improve his own play tomorrow afternoon.

 

[YankeeRebel]

You need to take a break. Insulting others is not a way to win an argument or make a valid point.

Please explain how a QB Rating can be placed on anyone but the QB?

No one else is throwing the football. Every other quarterback is measured by the exact same criteria. The QBs I mentioned have equally bad offensive lines and WRs. They all have better numbers because they at least try to improve themselves every week. Mac thinks that by throwing a weekly hissy fit that he puts his failures on others.

This entire forum knows that you are locked into Mac Jones and will now defend him to the death. So be it. The rest of us believe that we are seeing what the real Mac Jones is. A great QB when surrounded by a great team. A sucky QB otherwise.

Blame everyone else, the proof is in the pudding every week. Mac Jones can't hack it when things don't go his way.

The Bengal defense is a high speed, quick moving bunch. Expect him to eat a lot of Foxboro turf if he can't improve his own play tomorrow afternoon.

If someone insults me or is to blind to accept the truth fuck em they get what I give them. If you don't know how a QBR can be placed on more than a QB go back to watching Volleyball/

 

[BigKen]

If someone insults me or is to blind to accept the truth fuck em they get what I give them.

Really? Did you delete your "sperm swallowing" post??

You certainly can't back up this tough guy reply when you remove what you write.

Keep digging this hole. You're burying yourself.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I am closing this out my last post anyone can feel free to pick it apart.

1. We know the offense is not as effective as it was last year.
2. We know Mac is the QB. And he does not look as good as he did last year
3. We know the Oline play is as bad as we have seen in a long time.
4. We know we have and OC with no EXP
5. We know we have an O Line coach with no EXP.
6. We know we have at best average WRs one of which consistently has butterfingers.
7. We know there was little done last year to improve this.
8. I have clearly stated that BB seems to want to stick with Mac for some reason
9. I have said let it be an open competition next camp winner gets the job.
10. I have agreed that Mac's outbursts should be controlled.
11. I have posted links to where retired NFL QBs are defending Mac by stating how vanilla this offense is.


I can't make anyone believe any of this if they choose not to. But IMO BB did nothing to improve Macs situation and while he is not as efficient as he was last year I feel the majority of his woes are not solely on him.