Let the chips fall where the may.

[YankeeRebel]

Why hasn't BB benched Mac?

Potential Reasons:

1. He was to teach him to deal with adversity?

2. Benching him would make his decisions look bad?

3. He is the best option at QB?

4. He somehow sees faults in Zappa we can't know about?

5. This will be his last shot if he does poorly against Cinn we will see Zappe?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

How are the two any different?

I am placing blame on the one thing we know has changed, know Josh and BB thinking he was smart enough to try some dumb shit. Nowhere did I say Mac is not a part of the problem but I certainly do not see him as the biggest part of the problem.

If you choose to bow out as your "Getting Tiresome" remark indicates, Do so because you are wrong not because you are tired of the conversation. You don't seem to be able to accept the fact last year almost everyone here was praising Mac, and he looked good. You don't seem to be able to accept the one thing that changed is Patricia, That shit is on your brah

Very cute.

Enjoy Mac Island as you're the only one guarding it.

Oh and stop misquoting me then if you can't understand what the difference is. I'm schooling you in football for free. Don't expect me to school you in English as well.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Why hasn't BB benched Mac?

Potential Reasons:

1. He was to teach him to deal with adversity?

2. Benching him would make his decisions look bad?

3. He is the best option at QB?

4. He somehow sees faults in Zappa we can't know about?

5. This will be his last shot if he does poorly against Cinn we will see Zappe?

6. He has a bigger man crush on him than you do?

I choose #6

 

[YankeeRebel]

Very cute.

Enjoy Mac Island as you're the only one guarding it.

Oh and stop misquoting me then if you can't understand what the difference is. I'm schooling you in football for free. Don't expect me to school you in English as well.

All you have done throughout all this is show how little you know about this and how ignorant you are on the subject matter. You can't admit that the largest part of the blame is shitty O line play and play calling which directly go back to BBs decisions. And I am not on any island Mac is the best option at QB. If he can't get it done, then BB will have to replace him.

All you have done is express personal opinion. When I asked you what was the one thing that changed from last year you can't man up and admit what it is. Everyone here knows games are won in the trenches at least everyone but you.

No where did I say Mac is not a part of the problem again I am merely pointing out what changed and how that has affected him and the entire team

 

[YankeeRebel]

6. He has a bigger man crush on him than you do?

I choose #6

Weak dude, even for you pretty weak

 

[BigKen]

He did seem to mature last year. While at Bama he was winning. His first year in the NFL he was winning. Now they aren't and he's pouting like a school girl. He also was said to be a spoiled brat in his early days. Is that coming out now that he and his team isn't winning?

First, at Alabama, Mac could roast a brisket, slice it and make sandwiches with the O-Line he had. Add to that Waddle, Smith, Bolden and Metchie catching the ball. He rarely had any problem and to top off his receiving corps, he had Najee Harris to run the ball.

Last year he had Josh to keep the play calling rotated and could babysit Mac. This year, Mac has had to take more responsibility and do it without six other ll pros surrounding him. He doesn't have the help to cover up all of his mistakes. His frustration is rarely with his failures, it's more with others who can't make him as good as he may think he's become.

Sorry, but Mac has regressed in 2022 because he doesn't have all of the support that he became used to having playing at Alabama and his NFL weaknesses have been exposed and he hasn't been able to correct the problems and continually repeating them. High sideline passes, High End Zone passes, sliding two years ahead of the marker, failure to push himself into the end zone ona 1 and goal and having to either hand off or throw a pass into blanket coverage. IT is a a QB's responsibility to led a team. When he bitches or rants or waves off the coach, that's not leadership, it's a wounded ego. Time to grow up. It's like being drafted and going into battle. You get your shit together or you get your shit blown away.

 

[YankeeRebel]

First, at Alabama, Mac could roast a brisket, slice it and make sandwiches with the O-Line he had. Add to that Waddle, Smith, Bolden and Metchie catching the ball. He rarely had any problem and to top off his receiving corps, he had Najee Harris to run the ball.

Last year he had Josh to keep the play calling rotated and could babysit Mac. This year, Mac has had to take more responsibility and do it without six other ll pros surrounding him. He doesn't have the help to cover up all of his mistakes. His frustration is rarely with his failures, it's more with others who can't make him as good as he may think he's become.

Sorry, but Mac has regressed in 2022 because he doesn't have all of the support that he became used to having playing at Alabama and his NFL weaknesses have been exposed and he hasn't been able to correct the problems and continually repeating them. High sideline passes, High End Zone passes, sliding two years ahead of the marker, failure to push himself into the end zone ona 1 and goal and having to either hand off or throw a pass into blanket coverage. IT is a a QB's responsibility to led a team. When he bitches or rants or waves off the coach, that's not leadership, it's a wounded ego. Time to grow up. It's like being drafted and going into battle. You get your shit together or you get your shit blown away.

So you agree that what he had last year he does not have this year? You couple that with an OC who has ZERO experience, and O Line coach with ZERO exp. Of course, there is digression how could there not be? If what you speculate is true why hasn't he been benched. He may not be the best QB the question is, is he our best option at QB?

It seems to me Matty P has not learned anything from week one to now.

Simlple Question: GM for a day, who do you replace Matty P or Mac?

 

[BigKen]

Simlple Question: GM for a day, who do you replace Matty P or Mac?

Both.

I'd bring in Frank Reich or Bill O'Brien to replace Matt

I'd play Zappe instead of Mac. He won two games and was shelved by a HC who couldn't set aside his ego and has gone with a piss poor OC and QB.

I'd replace BB with Lincoln Reilly, Ryan Day or Matt Campbell

You asked, I answered what I'd do.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Both.

I'd bring in Frank Reich or Bill O'Brien to replace Matt

I'd play Zappe instead of Mac. He won two games and was shelved by a HC who couldn't set aside his ego and has gone with a piss poor OC and QB.

I'd replace BB with Lincoln Reilly, Ryan Day or Matt Campbell

You asked, I answered what I'd do.

He did win two games and lost won, and lost won beating the now Improved Lions and the Browns. He was not replaced he was playing b/c Jones was hurt. Jones won the QB battle and was named the starter. I am okay with giving Zappe another shot as I feel the season is a wash at this point. I don't think it's the prudent thing to do but If it happened I would be okay with ith.

Personally I would be very happy with Reich or O'Brien as OC.

Getting rid of BB seems a lot over the top to me. But that is your opinion. I do think the Krafts need to reel him in some and I am unsure they have to stones to do it.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

I could not agree less. Sure Mac has made mistakes I remember the short slide,. and all QBs have misses. My point is and remains we did not see a lot of this last year, and the major change is Patricia which is the fault of BB. Can blame be placed everywhere? Of course and it starts a the top.

And my point is Jones is not as cool in the pocket as he was last year.
He seems to have gone from #6 QB drafted that wanted to prove he was the most NFL ready of the draft to he thinks an over cocky seasoned pro.
He is the one with the ball in his hands, not BB. He is the one that called for play and dove over the line when the WR was not set, not BB. He is the one who waits too long and receives a delay of game, not BB. He is the one running out of bounds short of the marker without contact, not BB...etc, etc, etc.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

The comment was game after game after game a clear indication the itent was to put this on Mac. All I am trying to say is he did not have these issues last year. And ask what has changed? Mac or his supporting cast?

Maybe Mac has changed...

 

[YankeeRebel]

And my point is Jones is not as cool in the pocket as he was last year.
He seems to have gone from #6 QB drafted that wanted to prove he was the most NFL ready of the draft to he thinks an over cocky seasoned pro.
He is the one with the ball in his hands, not BB. He is the one that called for play and dove over the line when the WR was not set, not BB. He is the one who waits too long and receives a delay of game, not BB. He is the one running out of bounds short of the marker without contact, not BB...etc, etc, etc.

Of course he is not as cool in the pocket there is very little pocket to be cool in.

I don't feel its an over cocky Pro as much as it is a frustrated professional who want to win. Where he fails is wearing his heart on his sleeve and on the camera. Save that shit for the film room. Let me correct some of your mistakes. He is not the one waiting to long to call the play Matt is not getting the plays in fast enough, at least that is what I have heard former players indicate. And I agree he is the one with the ball in his hands, but we basically call two plays a screen and run or handoff up the middle, NFL defenses easily defend that when they know what it is. And yes he did run out of bounds short of the marker and yes, he did slide early and that may be awareness or may be him protecting himself I dont know..

 

[YankeeRebel]

Maybe Mac has changed...

I am sure he has, he doesn't feel secure in the pocket and he is a pocket passer. That would affect any pocket passing QB.

I said in another post maybe BB should bring in Zappe, it doesn't seem prudent unless you are sure he can take the number 1 job from Mac otherwise you go with the guy who won the job. Bailey is a lot more mobile than Mac so he may present a better option for now.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

So you agree that what he had last year he does not have this year? You couple that with an OC who has ZERO experience, and O Line coach with ZERO exp. Of course, there is digression how could there not be? If what you speculate is true why hasn't he been benched. He may not be the best QB the question is, is he our best option at QB?

It seems to me Matty P has not learned anything from week one to now.

Simlple Question: GM for a day, who do you replace Matty P or Mac?

Depends.
If everyone is buying into the system and coaching and it is Fatfuck's system that is not working I would get rid of Fatfuck.
If Mac is throwing temper tantrums and not giving his best support for the system to work, I would bench Mac.

We will never know if he is giving his all to do what is expected of him by Fatfuck or BB. We only know what is shown on Sundays and propagated by the media.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Depends.
If everyone is buying into the system and coaching and it is Fatfuck's system that is not working I would get rid of Fatfuck.
If Mac is throwing temper tantrums and not giving his best support for the system to work, I would bench Mac.

We will never know if he is giving his all to do what is expected of him by Fatfuck or BB. We only know what is shown on Sundays and propagated by the media.

It honestly sounds like it' some of both. Fatt Fuck and Mac. Sounds like those two need to go to a sports counselor

 

[Yankee Traveler]

It honestly sounds like it' some of both. Fatt Fuck and Mac. Sounds like those two need to go to a sports counselor

It very well could be.
If we see Mac throwing fits on Sundays he could well be undermining Fatfuck during practice and film review as well.

Could be. We do not know what is going on Monday through Saturday.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Mac Jones Speaks Out On His On-Field Behavior

This season, New England Patriots quarterback Mac Jones hasn’t been afraid to show emotion on the field.

heavy.com

 

[cheerupcharlie]

I've been a Mac supporter. It's not his play that has started my change of opinion. It's entirely his attitude. He is a crybaby/wuss boy. Supposedly they called him McEnroe at Alabama because of his outbursts. Be a leader. Play it calm/cool. There is a time and place to show your frustrations. He started last year off great. His last 5 games last year were pretty bad. I think in his last 16 games he has 13 TD'S and 13 INT'S. I hope he gets the coaching....line play and a legit wr1. that he needs. That any QB needs to be successful. This off-season will br the most interesting/crucial one maybe ever.

 

[Southieinnc]

....... I do think the Krafts need to reel him in some and I am unsure they have to stones to do it.

Do not mistake Krafts kind nature with weakness.....

 

[BigKen]

Sorry Mac, you just shit on your own shoes.

It's not passion, it's frustration. Passion has to with love and adoration of another, not being pissed off or angry at someone else.

You haven't fixed anything. You keep repeating things.

Trying to make an excuse for behavior after the event doesn't show well. Accept being pissed off and explain why you were. That's taking responsibility and giving your reason for it.