Kyrie Irving=Westbrook

[bksballer89]

Kyrie shot attempts in the first 4 games

VS NYK- 15
@ CHI- 17
@ POR- 17
@ Utah- 23

BTW in his last 3 games, he has a grand total of 8 assist and he is your point guard.

Lebron shot attempts in the first 4 games

VS NYK- 15
@ CHI- 30
@ POR- 12
@ Utah- 18

No way should Kyrie be taking the same amount of shots or more than the best player in the world when he is supposed to be your point guard.

Tonight the Cavs had a grand total of 6 assist.

 

[Inimical]

Lebron is consistently deferring. Kyrie is definitely a scoring point guard.

 

[bksballer89]

I agree with what Skip said.

He & Lebron or Love will clash if this keeps up

 

[Kold]

Not quite sure about this one. Its part Kyrie...and part Lebron taking the "I'm gonna let them hang themselves" approach

 

[bksballer89]

Not quite sure about this one. Its part Kyrie...and part Lebron taking the "I'm gonna let them hang themselves" approach

But still. 0 assist to 23 shots? From your PG? That's awful

 

[Inimical]

Also the Cavs offense has been "lets see which one of the superstars can will some points". Not so sure if they are buying what David is selling. I dunno much about this David guy, but so far, well.....

 

[bksballer89]

David is feeling the pressure already.

He started Marion at SG tonight....Waiters already got benched.

 

[Inimical]

Not quite sure about this one. Its part Kyrie...and part Lebron taking the "I'm gonna let them hang themselves" approach

I can not stress this shit enough. While he puts up numbers he can take over at any point in the game, much like kobe in his prime used to. Lebron seems to never want the pressure and steps up when either

A. He defers and watches someone else bomb miserably in high pressure situations
B.Long after futility has been established he takes over games

Lebron would deserve the benefit of the doubt, if not for his history of this. The best player in the world watched his team hang themselves in the finals last year. Kevin Durant is the best player IMO. Too bad he got injured =[

 

[Pariah]

Irving averages 7 assists and 20+ points a game?

Damn, dude must be good.

 

[bksballer89]

I'm going to post a video from First take today where Stephen A basically said there's a ton of pressure on Cavs management because LBJ won't hesitate to leave Cleveland again lol.

The look on Skip's face was priceless

 

[bksballer89]

Irving averages 7 assists and 20+ points a game?

Damn, dude must be good.

He's avg 18 & 5 before this game.

We know he can score but he needs to be a PG On this team....Pick & choose his spots

 

[MrHoople]

I'm going to post a video from First take today where Stephen A basically said there's a ton of pressure on Cavs management because LBJ won't hesitate to leave Cleveland again lol.

The look on Skip's face was priceless

If that's really true then Lebron is basically an NBA prostitute of sorts.

 

[Inimical]

Well they do need time. I think 20 games would be a good enough frame to see where they are at. They went out of the league for a coach, and i dunno what the dynamics are. But for a guy with no NBA experience to come in and take over a team like this, im not so sure the team is behind him 100%. Their offense should not look that bad. One of the things i noticed the Heat do is change the way they play AROUND Lebron. Lebron came in saying it was Kyries team. What does that tell you? Where does that leave Love in all this? After all Lebron is the chosen one in Cleveland.

 

[bksballer89]

Fast forward to about the 745 mark

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tv_H22eC7s]LeBron James Says We Are Playing Selfish! - ESPN First Take - YouTube[/ame]

 

[bksballer89]

At the 840 mark Stephen A said this " This notion that there is noway in hell Lebron James would ever leave Cleveland again that would be a grave mistake for anybody to make. He would leave again....Don't you doubt him"

LMAO

 

[MrHoople]

At the 840 mark Stephen A said this " This notion that there is noway in hell Lebron James would ever leave Cleveland again that would be a grave mistake for anybody to make. He would leave again....Don't you doubt him"

LMAO

Stephen A. Smith school of Pot Stirring 101.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

To be honest anyone who bought into the cavs is idiotic anyways.


Irving and Love are not Wade and Bosh. Not even close.


Wade and Bosh can refine their games to fit around LeBron and 3 headed monster...o and they also play DEFENSE.


Wade and Bosh don't need to jack up shots nightly. Wade and Bosh are also clutch. Love can't even hit pressure free throws.


This isn't something that is suddenly learned either. Its in your make up or it isn't.


And now the Bulls are even better than the Heat era to go along with a crappy version of the Heat era.

 

[Inimical]

Yeah why wouldnt he. He jumped ship, then jumped ship again. So would it surprise anyone if he left Cleveland again?

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

It is early, but sometimes the MIAMI formula of putting together a BIG 3 isn't always going to work.


I still think it will work, and Cleveland will find themselves in the Mix late in May/June.


But, there are so many diffrences....


Wade and Bosh were very competent defenders. Bosh is still not bad today.
They could rely on their defensive skills to help carry them until they figured out the offensive style and pecking order.


Spoelstra was young. But, he had been with the organization as an understudy for many years. He even had a playoff series under his belt.
The Cavs coach is brand new to the Cavs, the NBA, and his players.


Lebron is older and arguably less hungry now that he has had some success.
That is tough to quantify, but it typicall happens




I still think they win 50+ games and are a factor.
But, it will be a lot different than Miami's immediate eastern domination.

 

[MrHoople]

It is early, but sometimes the MIAMI formula of putting together a BIG 3 isn't always going to work.


I still think it will work, and Cleveland will find themselves in the Mix late in May/June.


But, there are so many diffrences....


Wade and Bosh were very competent defenders. Bosh is still not bad today.
They could rely on their defensive skills to help carry them until they figured out the offensive style and pecking order.


Spoelstra was young. But, he had been with the organization as an understudy for many years. He even had a playoff series under his belt.
The Cavs coach is brand new to the Cavs, the NBA, and his players.


Lebron is older and arguably less hungry now that he has had some success.
That is tough to quantify, but it typicall happens




I still think they win 50+ games and are a factor.
But, it will be a lot different than Miami's immediate eastern domination.

"but sometimes the MIAMI formula of putting together a BIG 3 isn't always going to work."

^^

The Miami formula? Didn't Boston do it before them with Pierce, Allen and Garnett? Some say that Duncan, Manu and Parker did it first.

You can even harken back to the McHale, Bird and Parrish big 3 of the 80s. It's not a new forumula that Miami created.