Is Baker Mayfield a Top 10 QB

[broncosmitty]

no

Exactly.

 

[dtgold88]

They count, my analysis stays the same. He is a gambler who makes more vad plays than good but should get better with more experience and more studying

He really doesn't but OK.

 

[shopson67]

you could "not agree with the statement" but would have a hard time disproving it. Has tremendous accuracy and a very strong arm.

62% completions translates to tremendous accuracy? 30th in the league in 2020.

 

[Wamu]

Wentz is without question better than Baker. As my rankings show, Baker is in the range of 15-20 in the league.

You incorrectly think Wentz is elite. And your "ratings" don't mean anything.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

You incorrectly think Wentz is elite. And your "ratings" don't mean anything.

I don't think Wentz is elite right now. I have him as the 15th best QB in the league.

 

[Wamu]

I have him around the 18th best QB in the league. I'll give him the slight edge over Jimmy G because Jimmy G can't stay healthy at all.


1. Mahomes
2. Brady
3. Wilson
4. Rodgers
5. Jackson
6. Dak
7. Herbert
8. Stafford
9. Watson
10. Murray
11. Tannehill
12. Big Ben
13. Carr
14. Burrow
15. Wentz
16. Cousins
17. Goff
18. Baker
19. Garoppolo
20. Ryan

Are these your current rankings of the QB's after week one? Judging them by what they did last week?

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Are these your current rankings of the QB's after week one?

As stated earlier these rankings are not based on week 1. But these are my current rankings of QBs.

 

[Wamu]

As stated earlier these rankings are not based on week 1. But these are my current rankings of QBs.

How much longer before you start saying Wentz is elite again?

 

[RememberTheKoy]

How much longer before you start saying Wentz is elite again?

Depends, when does he start playing at an elite level again if he does do so again?

 

[Wamu]

Depends, when does he start playing at an elite level again if he does do so again?

It's funny that you think because he had one good year he's somehow elite. Back in 1980 Brian Sipe was league MVP. Does that mean he was elite when he was playing?

 

[shopson67]

It's funny that you think because he had one good year he's somehow elite. Back in 1980 Brian Sipe was league MVP. Does that mean he was elite when he was playing?

Only an Ohioan would even think to bring up Brian Sipe, lol.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

It's funny that you think because he had one good year he's somehow elite. Back in 1980 Brian Sipe was league MVP. Does that mean he was elite when he was playing?

He didn't have just one good year though. He had 1 year where he was the beat QB in the league followed by two really good years.

 

[dtgold88]

62% completions translates to tremendous accuracy? 30th in the league in 2020.

Coached by Freddie in 2020.

 

[dtgold88]

Only an Ohioan would even think to bring up Brian Sipe, lol.

I mean, he was league MVP so it fits in his comment. No Brown fan thinks he was elite.

 

[shopson67]

I mean, he was league MVP so it fits in his comment. No Brown fan thinks he was elite.

Of course, but who has even THOUGHT of Sipe in decades?

 

[shopson67]

Coached by Freddie in 2020.

So was coached into throwing incompletions? Interesting concept.

BTW, Stefanski was the head coach in 2020. Thought a Browns fan would know that?

 

[Wamu]

He didn't have just one good year though. He had 1 year where he was the beat QB in the league followed by two really good years.

Here's a breakdown of CW's career so far. Gotta start by saying he had a damn good 2017.


-he's only won double digit games in a season once ('17)

-he's only has two above .500 seasons ('17 & '19 went 9-7)

-for his career he's two games above .500

-he led the league in int's in '20

-he's thrown for 4,000 yards once in his career ('19)

-and he has as many playoff wins as Andy Dalton


He's a good QB. But he's nowhere near elite. Money Mahomes, AR12, Wilson- those QB's are elite. And CW isn't in their class.

 

[Wamu]

Coached by Freddie in 2020.

I don't think alotta people know just how bad of a HC fratboy Freddie was. The team seriously lacked discipline under him.

 

[dtgold88]

So was coached into throwing incompletions? Interesting concept.

BTW, Stefanski was the head coach in 2020. Thought a Browns fan would know that?

Well, let's see. Other than his 1 season under Freddie the guy played better than expected every year going back to Oklahoma (maybe even HS). Maybe Freddie was the problem? The guy was told what concepts were working better and he ignored them (Stefanski doesn't).

 

[dtgold88]

I don't think alotta people know just how bad of a HC fratboy Freddie was. The team seriously lacked discipline under him.

The term, dysfunctional, probably gets thrown around too much. That team led by him was dysfunctional. So great to have adults in charge again who don't care who gets credit or blame.

I know you remembered end of half against Seattle. Instead of just owning he made a mistake in how he handled it, Freddie would find random examples to justify to reporters that what he did works. What kind of coach does that?