Um, no. That's not true at all. Stefanski wasn't the coach when they selected Mayfield.
No question about that.
That's actually not obvious as it sure seems possible or even likely had Watson not become available they'd have gone with Baker this season. They also don't seem willing to release Baker or trade him in a deal they don't like.
I have a hard time believing that either Lock or Smith will be the starter for the Seahawks under Carroll. Carroll's mantra has been that you always compete, you're not in a rebuild, and you don't tank. I hope he doesn't go with Lock/Smith, have a terrible season, and then try to walk-back his no rebuild comments after the fact in order to distance himself from the outcome. That would be total BS.
But playing well would help him get the contract he wants after the season.
The one hypothetical I'd love to get an answer to (but know we cannot) is what would have happened if Baker been sat down after his initial injury (week 2)? He'd have been coming off an exceptional 2020 season and 2 really good games to open 2021.
That's an opinion. It's not an unreasonable opinion. It could happen, but I just think it's more likely not to happen. If it does improve Mayfield's prospects it likely won't be by much because the 4 previous years show who and what Mayfield is, moreso than will a few fill-in games in 2022. I would certainly say there was more potential downside for Mayfield than upside. I think Mayfield will be thought of more fondly if he's not around for a year, which is ironically what has happened with Watson.
I believe it, Carroll doesn't want to call it a rebuild, maybe he prefers calling it reloading or whatever but I see it as a quick rebuild plan where in 2023 Seahawks can start expecting to be back in the playoffs....hopefully. It's a waste of resources trading for dud QBs and I include a slew of QBs who fit the "dud" description in my view and yes I include Mayfield in that group. Those resources can be put to work better and more effectively at other positions. Roll with Lock, see if there is any untapped potential, if not draft your QB next season and then game on!
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Nothing worse than a woman scorned and BM has proven he's a bitch.
So why didn't that amazing FO you keep telling us about pull the trigger and trade him?
How many top 1st round and early picks was he surrounded by?
a few fill in games? Maybe, but we are talking a number of games as in the hypothetical it was a long suspension and Baker filling in and playing well. I mean, if he had a great season in 2022 that makes 3 really good years out of the 4 he was healthy
Fairly certain most Browns fans think it's best he is moved sooner rather than later.....but also know there is no reason to make a deal that doesn't help the team since training camp doesn't even start until July.
why would they trade Baker after the 2020 season with no replacement?
Top 1st rounders who were good in that rookie season I mentioned? Garrett and Ward. Neither plays on Baker's side of the ball if you didn't know and the 2018 defense was pretty bad. Peppers, Zeitler and Njoku were late first rounders. But, hey, Greg Robinson was picked early in the 1st round. should he be included as a bigtime bust?
should add he was surrounded mostly by guys who had gone 1-31 in their previous 2 seasons.
Right? The few Browns' forums I look at I would say the vast majority do not like Baker.
