OK...and how does he prove his worth if he's never moved to a new team?
He'll prove his worth once he's traded or picked off WW this season with his new team or he'll have to sign a prove it deal with some team next season.
That's the best you can do? A guy winding down his career and regressing who had already had at least one huge contract beyond his rookie deal? AJ Green is your comparison to Baker? FYI, even if this was a good comparison, he did not get much of a deal from sitting out so his example is a reason for baker to play and prove himself.
OK, but in this example we are talking about Baker playing for the Browns and playing well. For some reason you just cannot get yourself to admit this would be great for Baker.
See you did exactly what I expected and poo poo the name I gave you because it doesn't fit what you have convinced yourself of. Players milk/fake injuries if it suits them.
Play what 3 games, 6 games? You think this proves jack shit to other NFL teams, over what they have seen the last 4 years? No team is giving a contract because Mayfield played a few extra games even with the surgery/injury. A contract ( beyond a prove it deal) doesn't come until he plays for some team and proves he makes THAT team better.
Trent Williams I also think maybe gillmore did it too
Cowboys had a Dlineman thats claimed to be injured. Then went to the redskins & was instantly healthy.
Lots players do this, we know this and so does dtgold88. He's trying to convince himself that THIS TIME that won't apply, but that's a fantasy.
He's already said his goodbyes to the fans. The Browns don't want him and he wants out.
There's not many players I HATE, but I HATE that fucktard.
You said I would say to prove he milked it by faking an injury. I don't doubt that could have happened with green.......what I did do was try to enlighten you and explain why Green could feign injury but it would be in baker's best interest to prove he could play. Ergo, it does not suit Baker to fake an injury.
If the Browns put Baker on the market after 2020 would they have received offers for him? If so, what type of offers in your opinion? See if you can answer like a big boy with no agenda.
should have added (and I did later) that such a player need to be more in a situation like Baker where he needs to prove his worth and has not received his big contract (like Williams and Gilmore).
It was in AJ interest to play also (if you disregard risking injury), he was in the final year of his contract and there was some doubts about his play.
I do know it could happen (though so far your "lots of players" is 3). Can you really not see the difference in the situations of Trent Williams and Gilmore compared to Baker.
No idea because they didn't do that and what ifs are kind of silly
Unless he really was hurt, which he might have been. For this argument, though, feel free to claim we know he was hurt as doesn't make a big difference. AJ was a regressing player and had had at least 1 if not 2 huge contracts. Baker is playing for his first huge deal and likely believes he is not regressing at this point in his career. In addition, in this discussion, we are assuming he would play well if he plays. It's comedy gold you cannot just get yourself to say that would be best for him.
what do you mean no idea? You seem to think you know what kind of QB Baker is no matter what he does next time he plays.
Every situation is unique to some degree and their will always be differences. We are reading the tea leaves here and from my view the Browns and Mayfield are divorcing and neither the Browns or Mayfield want Mayfield on the roster or taking a snap. What is happening at the moment is haggling about terms of the divorce and it's not looking good for the Browns IMO.
