Much of what you say is true....no need to trade for guys you don't think are franchise QBs. But it's funny what you say about the QBs on that list but think Lock has more potential than all of them and is not a bum?
again....comedy gold you call Baker a proven bust but wont say the same of Lock.
Yep....and thank goodness we finally brought guys in who would do it right. No reason to half tank as they often did.
Pete liked Lock when he came out of college and Lock looked promising his rookie season playing the last 5 games that year. Broncos were struggling with the direction they wanted to go it seems, Over the years they been turning over OCs and churning at the QB position. It seems like they didn't try to develop Lock instead they went with failed retreads like Flacco and Bridgewater and with the benefit of hind site we now know that was a bad idea ( yet we have folks pushing for the same thing in regards to retreads). Lock potential is still a unknown, he got a good arm but makes some questionable decisions that could perhaps be fixed. LOL at the armchair GMs here who think they are qualified to judge Lock vs these retreads QBs. How many games have you even seen Lock play? Less then a half dozen times? Yet you feel qualified to pass judgement.
You know what I think is comedy gold? Browns fans like you suggesting a 3rd and taking on Mayfield salary isn't asking to much, sightly better then the Brown fan that insisted a 2nd would be needed (and no mention of Browns helping with his salary).
Tanking worked for the Browns.
never said it wasn't asking for a lot....just said IF that was offered browns likely grab it.
Lock has only started 21 games over 3 seasons I don't think that's enough of a sample size, Mayfield has started 60 games over 4 seasons and that's a large enough sample size to draw conclusions on his abilities as a NFL QB. Browns certain did and they gave him a thumbs down, yet Browns fans here are still clinging to the idea that Mayfield isn't bottom 10 and worth something.
OK tell us what you feel Mayfield fair value is then.
In Baker's most recent season when healthy he had a top 10 QBR and top 10 PFF grade. Was arguably the top QB in his rookie class in rookie season.
Honestly, I have no idea. If someone did say 2nd or 3rd rounder I would not think that's crazy.....and, I also think a case could be made for a late round pick at best while also taking on some of his salary
If the Browns felt like Mayfield was a top ten QB they don't make these moves:
Never said they felt he was a top 10 QB....but he did have a top 10 season.
I only say that Lock sample size is to small, the changes of OC, the changes in offenses systems and lack of opportunity means there is still reason to believe he has some untapped potential to develop. This season the Seahawks have fortified the OL with bookend tackles, drafted one of the top RBs and already have a pair of really good WRs and will use a system that will play to Locks strengths. It could work out just fine.
Mayfield is a bust and I don't care how loud Browns fans claim he isn't. I would rather see what Lock can do.
LOL @ you asking me to rank busts
