Historically worse offender of cupcake sched

[Codaxx]

Sure. Right. Nice copout. Move along.

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It is not that simple. Take 2 different OOC schedules

Team A plays 2 FCS teams and a top 10 team. They are a 3 pt dog.

Team B plays 3 solid AQs.. They are a 7 pt fav in each.

Team A actually has a better chance of going undefeated. (41%*99%*99%= 40%)
Team B (.7*.7*.7=34%)

Numbers are based on the fact that 3 pt dog is 41% chance to win and 7 pt fav is 70%. Take a look at money lines and you will see it is correct

 

[ktg8trgrl]

hmmm lets take a look shall we at the Current sos and NOTE: The stats on this page include data ONLY from games involving two FBS schools.
College Football Power Ratings - College FB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

 

[charlie42s]

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It is not that simple. Take 2 different OOC schedules

Team A plays 2 FCS teams and a top 10 team. They are a 3 pt dog.

Team B plays 3 solid AQs.. They are a 7 pt fav in each.

Team A actually has a better chance of going undefeated. (41%*99%*99%= 40%)
Team B (.7*.7*.7=34%)

Numbers are based on the fact that 3 pt dog is 41% chance to win and 7 pt fav is 70%. Take a look at money lines and you will see it is correct

SEC proving that logic doesn't matter

 

[Shanemansj13]

Ohh boy...this thread AGAIN

 

[Blackshirt]

Florida fans trying to defend their occ, LoL.

 

[WABLTY]

Who is it? Which program seems to always schedule weak OOC opponents?

Here are a few off the top of my head that I recall seem to always have a very weak OOC.

-Florida
-Missouri
-Kansas State
-Arizona State

What? Not even close. ASU has had at least 1 AQ on the non conference schedule every season, with the exception of 2000 and 2001, for the last 30+ years. Games include LSU, Georgia, Notre Dame, Nebraska in their prime, Miami, etc.

 

[OregonDucks]

ASU yes. It is the way you guys always start off 4-1 5-1 and then go into the tanker.

 

[WABLTY]

ASU yes. It is the way you guys always start off 4-1 5-1 and then go into the tanker.

So ASU plays a difficult OOC game, loses it and then wins their first 2 conference games and it must be some huge scheduling conspiracy?

ASU has played just as many if not more big boy teams than Oregon has in the non conference over the years. Or did you forget that the Ducks played Arkansas State, Fresno and Tennessee Tech last season?

 

[LawDawg]

that's the debate of non sec fans. some of these rankings are just undeserved...I don't think Georgia is the number 9 team in country after what I saw yesterday vs north texas...not sure about south Carolina... currently Stanford is slated to play 5 ranked teams....not so sure it gets tougher than that...but im sure sec fans question some of the pac 12 rankings just as I question teams like ole miss, florida etc

Yeah ... UGa only had 640 yards of total offense, gave up 7 yards rushing, and held North Texas offense to 7 points in a game that if you watched it was never in doubt. 20% of North Texas total offense was picked up in the last 3.5 minutes against our 3rd team and freshman. Mind you, this was probably the best of the mid-majors to get beaten down yesterday, at least from current stats.

And, the idea that you rate a team based on one game against a cupcake makes no sense.

 

[ktg8trgrl]

Florida fans trying to defend their occ, LoL.

Our whole SOS is the only thing that matters.. and one of these days the rest of you weak ass conferences will understand that.. once again.. we don't play real tough OOC because our IC is stronger then yours.. and you all have two choices.. get over it ... or not.. jimmies will be rustled now.

 

[WhiteMamba]

So ASU plays a difficult OOC game, loses it and then wins their first 2 conference games and it must be some huge scheduling conspiracy?

ASU has played just as many if not more big boy teams than Oregon has in the non conference over the years. Or did you forget that the Ducks played Arkansas State, Fresno and Tennessee Tech last season?

Thanks to K State backing out....

The other 2 were Bowl teams. Arky State conf champs....

 

[WABLTY]

Thanks to K State backing out....

The other 2 were Bowl teams. Arky State conf champs....

And LSU rescheduled on us at one point. It doesn't really matter. It's just an example. If you go to cfbdatawarehouse.com and look at Oregon's and ASU's non conference schedules over the years, they will be extremely similar. 2 teams that should be outmatched and one for respect. Sometimes there will be 2 games. Very occasionally 0. Generally the same. You guys played LSU. We played LSU. You guys played Oklahoma. We played Georgia. You guys played Michigan. We played Iowa (when they were good). You played Michigan State. We played Notre Dame or Miami.

 

[Rolltide94]

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It is not that simple. Take 2 different OOC schedules

Team A plays 2 FCS teams and a top 10 team. They are a 3 pt dog.

Team B plays 3 solid AQs.. They are a 7 pt fav in each.

Team A actually has a better chance of going undefeated. (41%*99%*99%= 40%)
Team B (.7*.7*.7=34%)

Numbers are based on the fact that 3 pt dog is 41% chance to win and 7 pt fav is 70%. Take a look at money lines and you will see it is correct

SEC proving that logic doesn't matter

LOL at a couple of Texas Bumpkins thinking FBS teams beat FCS teams at a 99% rate. Try putting last year's 91% in your formula and tell me how it works...and the percentage is getting worse for FBS not better.

Also... LOL at you thinking that a Team B that plays 3 SOLID AQ's OOC actually exists. Please tell us all who this team is...

 

[charlie42s]

LOL at a couple of Texas Bumpkins thinking FBS teams beat FCS teams at a 99% rate. Try putting last year's 91% in your formula and tell me how it works...and the percentage is getting worse for FBS not better.

Also... LOL at you thinking that a Team B that plays 3 SOLID AQ's OOC actually exists. Please tell us all who this team is...

99%, really. I have never written anything like that. I go by facts and IIRC last season's 91% FBS winning percentage is very close to the all-time average, which is something like 90%.

And your statement about 3 solid AQ's in an OOC schedule is not based on prior statements by me or Codaxx. I'll bet you are making a feeble attempt at trolling. Are you under the influence, because your game is below par for you?

 

[TonyTheGator]

You can spin things a lot of ways, but at season's end, the Gators will have played one of the toughest schedules in the nation. Using the current AP poll, the Gators play #s 6, 8, 9, 12, & 15. Sure, these rankings will vary by season's end, but not by a whole lot. If you can't see the strength of this schedule, your eyes are closed. And FTR, #8 & #15 are OOC.

 

[Codaxx]

LOL at a couple of Texas Bumpkins thinking FBS teams beat FCS teams at a 99% rate. Try putting last year's 91% in your formula and tell me how it works...and the percentage is getting worse for FBS not better.

Also... LOL at you thinking that a Team B that plays 3 SOLID AQ's OOC actually exists. Please tell us all who this team is...

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Even at 91% it is 34% chance, so exactly even. Next time dont be so lazy and do the math. Not to mention I doubt FCS beats upper echelon FBS teams at a 91% clip. I was simply showing math behind the argument. I left team names out to attempt to keep bias out and have a discussion on the merits. Alas, that did not work

 

[NDHoosier101]

Here is a nice list of the top schools' combined profits for football and basketball. Notice how, once again, the SEC dominates the list. Need I say more?

» Which Football and Basketball Programs Produce the Largest Profits?

More recent numbers: » Top 50 Most Profitable FBS Football and Men?s Basketball Programs

 

[NDHoosier101]

hmmm lets take a look shall we at the Current sos and NOTE: The stats on this page include data ONLY from games involving two FBS schools.
College Football Power Ratings - College FB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

Any list with Buffalo number #1 is ridiculous.

 

[Rolltide94]

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Even at 91% it is 34% chance, so exactly even. Next time dont be so lazy and do the math. Not to mention I doubt FCS beats upper echelon FBS teams at a 91% clip. I was simply showing math behind the argument. I left team names out to attempt to keep bias out and have a discussion on the merits. Alas, that did not work

My point was they are exactly even...So, yes while I agree that FCS teams don't beat upper echelon FBS teams at that rate...I also hold firm that there is no Team B in your scenario, as there are no FBS, teams upper echelon or not, that play 3 solid AQ's in which they are only a 7 pt favorite.

 

[Codaxx]

Any list with Buffalo number #1 is ridiculous.

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Why? You would expect cupcakes that need a check to have the highest SOS early. Not like the big boys are going to schedule each other