College Athlete Compensation

[theboardref]

That is two completely separate arguments. An FBS college making millions takes 2% of profits and cuts it evenly among athletes. But wait, this guy sits the bench so he deserves half of another players cut along with his own.

The left field argument you are making is, well Webber State deserves money too. No, they are unrelated to the topic because they were never making this kind of money before. I already said earlier though that this system would bring about a split among AQ and non-AQ's. With money in the mix, non-AQ's just wouldn't have a chance.

 

[Berkeley_Blues]

Pay college football players. The injuries alone deserve a paycheck.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Great minds think alike. As I hit send I was thinking about that. This is actually a proposal I have been working on for some time. I had to give a speech on college athletes getting paid, its ongoing research for me still. I am not positive about any payment or even the concept of paying players, but I am positive that players will get payed whether legally or illegally.

I am glad folks like you are working on it because it makes my head hurt figuring out something that is fair to all programs equally and makes sense to keep kids in school.

After all. Colleges are meant to provide a young adult with a better chance at a good living.

Whether that be for the overwhelming minority playing professionally or any other career the student athlete is pursuing.

 

[HizzleRocker]

College athletes should NOT be paid. No way, no how. Coming from an ex-sholarship athlete, here are my reasons:

1) They are already getting enough. I do not care about the argument that the college is making money off them. Don't give a single fuck about it. People in the business world do free internships all the time. Why? To get their foot in the door of an amazing opportunity. They are guaranteed nothing except experience and opportunity. Scholarship athletes are getting a free internship to the pros; They are getting fame and notoriety; They are getting free training and experience and use of facilities; They are getting room and board; They are getting to play the sport they love; And they are getting a free education. It's insulting to ask for more.

2) The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This is what will happen. I for one love that the smaller schools at least have a chance to compete on any given year. If we start paying, the schools with the most money and biggest boosters will rule the day.

3) It should be about more than money. A young 17 year old kid's life altering decision should be about more than who can pay him the most. What about staying close to family? Or the quality of education? Or the coaching staff you love most? Etc.... These kids are just about to learn how to weight pros and cons, and how to move forward in their lives. We are now going to corrupt that process by throwing dollar bills at it. Disgusting!

I can go on and on with others like slippery slope, etc... that have already been mentioned by others. Point is, high school sports is your chance to earn a free education and a free internship to the pros. Once you achieve that, college sports are about earning the right to get paid.

 

[Codaxx]

That is two completely separate arguments. An FBS college making millions takes 2% of profits and cuts it evenly among athletes. But wait, this guy sits the bench so he deserves half of another players cut along with his own.

The left field argument you are making is, well Webber State deserves money too. No, they are unrelated to the topic because they were never making this kind of money before. I already said earlier though that this system would bring about a split among AQ and non-AQ's. With money in the mix, non-AQ's just wouldn't have a chance.

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It does not cut down on every team. Less than half of them make money and they do not share money. I am simply ptign out that is ironic to pt out the inequities amongst players, when there are massive inequities between programs. CFB is a capitalistic system.

 

[24seven]

But do those tax dollars go to the athletic department? I cannot speak for every school, but I know for a fact that for the Univeristy of Michigan (a public school) the athletic department is 100% financially independent from the general univeristy fund. Therefore the tax dollars that go to the school go nowhere near the athletic department.

Yes, but those players go to class (well, sometimes...), which is a state resource (teachers, buildings, etc.) funded by tax dollars. There would be no athletic department without a school in the first place, and so those players are using what we are paying for, taking slots that could be used by people instead of being wasted by someone who leaves after three years.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Well let me clarify a bit, a player should be able to sell their jersey, so long as it is a fair market price. If you got someone like Phil Knight throwing his money around like that, it would be an obvious red flag.

and that is why I am wary about this.

Your team included. Imagine the division of the top 20 programs vs the rest.

TEXAS

We could have millionaire cfb players before they were ever drafted to the NFL.

 

[Codaxx]

College athletes should NOT be paid. No way, no how. Coming from an ex-sholarship athlete, here are my reasons:

2) The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This is what will happen. I for one love that the smaller schools at least have a chance to compete on any given year. If we start paying, the schools with the most money and biggest boosters will rule the day.
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I am actually OK with less programs playing at this level. Far too much tax payer money is diverted from education and sensible programs for things like college football. Probably half of FBS football teams have no business playing at that level.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Jo Bob from Alabama could hit the powerball for a cool 300 mil and spend 50 mil on jerseys. DOnate em to the less fortunate for a tax right off... And there ya go.

Is this unconceivable?

 

[RACER-MIKE]

DO NOT PAY THEM. then have no more cfb you go straight to the pros if you want to be payed .

 

[WhiteMamba]

DO NOT PAY THEM. then have no more cfb you go straight to the pros if you want to be payed .

well for one you have to wait 3 years to go to the NFL. Spose they could go to the Arena or Canada

 

[john01992]

im against it. what makes cfb great is that you are rooting for your fellow classmates. the second we start paying players CFB becomes nothing more than a glorified minor league

 

[john01992]

if were not gonna pay the players though then the schools/ncaa should at the very least stop pimping their students image for every dollar possible.

 

[ellupo]

if were not gonna pay the players though then the schools/ncaa should at the very least stop pimping their students image for every dollar possible.

I agree with that. No image, no names used.

 

[FSUmanager]

Now autographs and jerseys are something completely different. If a kid wants to sell his bowl jersey, something that is his property, that is completely his right.

TO the bold. That is not his property. The jersey was not purchased by the athlete. THe school purchased said jersey so it is the schools property no matter the name on the back.


As far as getting paid. Hell No. At most state schools the football players are receiving in the way of tax free benefits around 35-40k per year. That is payment enough. Once you start to pay these kids then it is no different than the NFL. People complaining they are not getting paid enough at one school so they transfer to one that will pay more(whether legally or illegally). The entire premise is a slippery slope.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Now autographs and jerseys are something completely different. If a kid wants to sell his bowl jersey, something that is his property, that is completely his right.

And when a team's wealthy booster is buying autographs at 10K a pop, will you still agree?

 

[Sox33OSU]

And when a team's wealthy booster is buying autographs at 10K a pop, will you still agree?

Every single school in the FBS has wealthy boosters, so it's not like there's some sort of unfair advantage.

 

[Sox33OSU]

TO the bold. That is not his property. The jersey was not purchased by the athlete. THe school purchased said jersey so it is the schools property no matter the name on the back.

The hell it's not his property. If it wasn't, the school would take it back when he graduates. If you give a jersey to a kid, one that he's not required to give back and that is his to keep, it's his property. If your parents bought you a sweater you didn't like, would you not be free to go return it, or would you have to give it back to them because "they purchased said sweater"?

 

[WhiteMamba]

Every single school in the FBS has wealthy boosters, so it's not like there's some sort of unfair advantage.

there is for the top 20 programs

 

[rolltide14_0]

Forget giving the kids paychecks, forget letting them sell their autographs, and forget giving them a lump sum payment when they graduate...

These players want to be able to get some new clothes every few months, they want to have something to eat other than ramen noodles, and maybe they want a new pair of headphones or a new iphone every year, and I think we should help them get this stuff without giving them a paycheck.

Lets give these guys gift cards to radioshack, food joints/restaurants around town, grocery stores, and shoe stores every few months or semester, probably wanna make the grocery store card a monthly thing, but lets put a limit on these cards of 100-200 dollars each time. If we can do this and limit it do a certain point, then all schools will be able to do this without the bigger schools being able to throw around more cash around and have an advantage.

That's not a perfect idea, but maybe someone smarter than me can take that and make something that would work out of it.