CFB, Amateur sport?

[TheReal_NU]

Vince Young wasn’t holding clipboards and getting coffee for the staff meeting

To be fair, based on his test scores that’s about all his UT degree prepared him for.

 

[ElTexan]

Only if one chooses to ignore trade offs.

If you think college athletes are “hurt” by the current system, how will they be affected if said opportunities GO AWAY. How does that benefit their “rights and opportunities”?

College athletics EXPANDS opportunities. Taking those away will have far more economic costs than benefits.

That’s not the point under discussion. It doesn’t matter if you or I agree that the status quo might help a great number of other players... having a monopoly dictate to principals their compensation while multi billions are being made off their labor is egregiously unamerican, unfair, and immoral.

You shouldn’t accept it in any other industry, eg petroleum engineering, and you shouldn’t accept it in this one

 

[WizardHawk]

That’s not the point under discussion. It doesn’t matter if you or I agree that the status quo might help a great number of other players... having a monopoly dictate to principals their compensation while multi billions are being made off their labor is egregiously unamerican, unfair, and immoral.

So to you the amount they bring in is 'profits' with no attention to where that money actually goes. You want to compare it to industries where profits equals rich people putting money in their pockets.

Where does every penny of that money coming in on those profits actually go? Once you figure that out get back to us.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

That’s not the point under discussion. It doesn’t matter if you or I agree that the status quo might help a great number of other players... having a monopoly dictate to principals their compensation while multi billions are being made off their labor is egregiously unamerican, unfair, and immoral.

You shouldn’t accept it in any other industry, eg petroleum engineering, and you shouldn’t accept it in this one

Making decisions and ignoring tradeoffs is foolish. You are implying some sort of purity of principle, but principles are worth little if their application produces substandard results. In this case, applying your prescribed policy would produce results ruinous to athletes across the board.

 

[Across The Field]

Take Ohio State. Free tuition plus room and board PLUS all of the networking and internship opportunities in Columbus. I would give that a net present value in the millions.

My fiancee works in fundraising at OSU. She routinely gets to work with former players, going back decades. Not a single one of them is upset about not getting paid while in college, because they were extremely well taken care of after college, especially the ones who didn't go pro.

 

[BigRedMoe]

Cool. How much should we pay the Women's Rowing team?

 

[ElTexan]

Cool. How much should we pay the Women's Rowing team?

Women’s rowing isn’t a multi billion dollar pursuit where ancillary concerns are making multi billions

 

[8085sooner]

I will ruin College Football.



OU and texASS are VERY fortunate to have Football programs that make money and supplement other sports. Most lose money or break even.

 

[romeo212000]

Women’s rowing isn’t a multi billion dollar pursuit where ancillary concerns are making multi billions

And you continue to ignore the title IX issues. STFU, dude. It ain’t happening.

 

[BigRedMoe]

Women’s rowing isn’t a multi billion dollar pursuit where ancillary concerns are making multi billions

Not familiar with Federal laws then, eh?

 

[TheReal_NU]

Cool. How much should we pay the Women's Rowing team?

To be honest, I believe we need pictures to determine that.












Did I just “do a sexist”???

 

[JuiceTheGator]

Cool. How much should we pay the Women's Rowing team?

They, and volleyball, get paid in inches.

 

[romeo212000]

They, and volleyball, get paid in inches.

2,1,5,3,4

 

[Sgt Brutus]

The vast majority of scholarship athletes don't turn pro. They end up with degrees, serious professional contacts, a resume grabber, and no student debt. All while playing a game they love in front of thousands of people and all that TV exposure.

Sure, they are abused.

Quick search shows Ohio State out-of-state tuition at 28k (probably more after other expenses). Now times that by four or five years and you're looking at well over 100k to attend and graduate.
That free ride and more importantly NO STUDENT DEBT is worth a lot.

 

[romeo212000]

Quick search shows Ohio State out-of-state tuition at 28k (probably more after other expenses). Now times that by four or five years and you're looking at well over 100k to attend and graduate.
That free ride and more importantly NO STUDENT DEBT is worth a lot.

Never mind all the free gear, allowances, stipends, meal plans, world class training facilities, and nutrition advice they get. Plus a chance to showcase their talents to the country.

 

[BigRedMoe]

Butt yu guise, there alsu high school principals at the saem thyme! Dey desurb da monies!

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

It’s not a right of theirs first off, they're not employees. They have free will not to play if they’re not getting paid and can wait until they’re eligible to play in the NFL. College football players are afforded hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits for their participation. 99% of them will never make a dime going pro. The rest have now benefited from an education that will pay them millions over the course of a lifetime for their future career path afforded to them with a college degree. A vast majority which would've never received the level of education they did while in school haven't been for their scholarship.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Doesn’t matter. It has ceased being an amateur sport decades ago. It’s a multi billion dollar industry. In fact, just one school’s program is in the seven digits.
The schools make millions, the individual coaches make millions, the broadcasters make millions, everyone associated with the sport is spending and making millions... except for the principals doing the sport.
No monopoly should dictate to the principals their compensation in such an enterprise. It’s laughably unfair, unamerican, immoral, and illegal.

It does matter, since this money to pay them has to come from somewhere. You ready for college baseball to die? Would anybody besides some blue bloods be able to afford baseball?

 

[Cave_Johnson]

Cool. How much should we pay the Women's Rowing team?

77% of what they pay the Men's Rowing team.

Duh.

 

[Deep Creek]

How many NCAA programs make a big profit from athletics?

IIRC, only about 30-40 actually operate in the black...much less make a BIG profit.