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I'm still waiting on how the Dubs are gonna beat the Bulls with 4 really good defenders.

Steals all time:

Jordan #3
Pippen #6
Ron Harper #23
Rodman :heh:


Jordan with 9 all NBA 1st team defense, Pippen with 8, Rodman with 7.


How easy are those shots going to be?
 

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I guess. One of the most competitive guys ever would just accept his fate and play for some middling team if had the chance to play for a ring? To each their own but no way I believe it.




I thought it was 22 million but ok. Allegedly Jordan was ready to sign the deal, the initial Bulls offer was $18 million. Supposedly his agent gave the Bulls one hour to respond and they did.

That Time Michael Jordan Almost Joined The Knicks In 1996

We don't need to mythologize these guys. Jordan was an incredible player but he's a human being as well and maximizing his earning potential was just as important to him as everyone else.


He was never going to NYC. Please man contract negotiations use leverage. The media is full of hacks just trying to find something to write about.
 

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I'm still waiting on how the Dubs are gonna beat the Bulls with 4 really good defenders.

Steals all time:

Jordan #3
Pippen #6
Ron Harper #23
Rodman :heh:


Jordan with 9 all NBA 1st team defense, Pippen with 8, Rodman with 7.


How easy are those shots going to be?


Probably has a lot to do with those offensively challenged teams Jordan and the Bulls got to face
 

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I never said Jordan would leave. In fact, I said he never would (for competition purposes). Lebron wasn't as strong-willed and went chasing short-cuts to rings, cheapens the accomplishments.


Small sidenote

He's the biggest reason by a Mile why those teams are winning those rings

Please lets not act like he is jumping on the coattails of an already established title team, like someone we all know
 

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Lebron is a ring chaser and has failed at that many times. To even consider him as the GOAT is laughable for that reason alone.


There is a reason only Lebron haters have that opinion

Everyone without a dog in the fight strongly dis-agrees with that assessment
 

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Lebron is a ring chaser and has failed at that many times. To even consider him as the GOAT is laughable for that reason alone.

And KD isn't a ring chaser?
 

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I don't know whether it was @shopson or @LAD that claimed that Lebron is something like a top 10 player all time. I would love to hear who the the 9 guys you have ahead of him are.
 

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Probably has a lot to do with those offensively challenged teams Jordan and the Bulls got to face


So you are saying Jordan and Co were not that good defensively? That all those steals and accolades should have an asterick? And that Golden St faced stout defenses all year?
 

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So you are saying Jordan and Co were not that good defensively? That all those steals and accolades should have an asterick? And that Golden St faced stout defenses all year?


Excellent defenses, but never played one offense I could think of that bodes the offensive talent that GS does.......I dont think GS has faced stout defenses all season, but I do think we know when we are watching an all time offensively talented team......I think Durant, Curry and Thompson are fierce offensive players in any era
 

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This year in the NBA there was 29 out of 30 teams that average over 100 points per game.

In 97-98 there was 5. Tells me the lack of D being played today in regular season (it's no secret) and the type of D being played back in the 90s.
 

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This year in the NBA there was 29 out of 30 teams that average over 100 points per game.

In 97-98 there was 5. Tells me the lack of D being played today in regular season (it's no secret) and the type of D being played back in the 90s.


Absolutely, and the game has changed in the way these teams are drafted and coached....The focus in both those areas is to get the athletic wing types that get up and down, score, shoot the 3, etc.......And lets not forget the big man is basically extinct now, which means the half court offense is almost extinct
 

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Excellent defenses, but never played one offense I could think of that bodes the offensive talent that GS does.......I dont think GS has faced stout defenses all season, but I do think we know when we are watching an all time offensively talented team......I think Durant, Curry and Thompson are fierce offensive players in any era


Not in the 90s. Durant and Curry get their skinny asses pounded. In either era the Bulls still D their ass up all over the court.

Seattle was the only team back from 1996-1998 that averaged over 100 points per game. For their time, the Sonics could run up and down the floor and score. Phoenix had a good offense in the West the year they went to the finals.

Different game today for sure. But the Bulls aren't lying down for anyone.
 

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Absolutely, and the game has changed in the way these teams are drafted and coached....The focus in both those areas is to get the athletic wing types that get up and down, score, shoot the 3, etc.......And lets not forget the big man is basically extinct now, which means the half court offense is almost extinct


But a player like Lebron can take over a game if he wants to, slow things down and get that half court game working. With solid D, that's how they won last year.

They made GS take tough shots with a hand in their face. Bumped Curry and he couldn't get his feet set like he did in the first 2 games of 2017.
 

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Not in the 90s. Durant and Curry get their skinny asses pounded. In either era the Bulls still D their ass up all over the court.

Seattle was the only team back from 1996-1998 that averaged over 100 points per game. For their time, the Sonics could run up and down the floor and score. Phoenix had a good offense in the West the year they went to the finals.

Different game today for sure. But the Bulls aren't lying down for anyone.


Yeah, not so sure about that.....Guys with the same size and skill set of the Durants and Currys' back in the day had plenty of success
 

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Nobody considers Durant as the GOAT

Whatever. You're so overly biased about LeBron that even if he was 7-0 in the Finals you'd still try to diminish his career.
 

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Yeah, not so sure about that.....Guys with the same size and skill set of the Durants and Currys' back in the day had plenty of success


Who in the 90s? Late 80s? Curry and Durant have barely any muscle. I can't think of any superstar back then of their size that scored 25/game.

Karl Malone, Shaun Kemp, Anthony Mason, Oakley were beasts. Curry still looks like a kid
 

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Who in the 90s? Late 80s? Curry and Durant have barely any muscle. I can't think of any superstar back then of their size that scored 25/game.

Karl Malone, Shaun Kemp, Anthony Mason, Oakley were beasts. Curry still looks like a kid


Guys like Alex English were elite scorers......Durant is a 7 footer that has the skills of a PG, I mean, who back in that era had that skill set?
 

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Who in the 90s? Late 80s? Curry and Durant have barely any muscle. I can't think of any superstar back then of their size that scored 25/game.

Joe Dumars. Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Reggie Miller, Scottie Pippen, James Worthy,

Karl Malone, Shaun Kemp, Anthony Mason, Oakley were beasts. Curry still looks like a kid

Why are you comparing Curry to power forwards and centers?
 
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