All-Time Rosters for Each Team

[DirtDirtDirt]

...or never

That doesnt seem very nice

 

[bravesfan]

Omar, with the 5 year minimum rule how are you going to build the marlins? Could you even get a 25 man roster from them?

 

[Cedrique]

Jeff Conine will play all 9 positions

 

[StanMarsh51]

Omar, with the 5 year minimum rule how are you going to build the marlins? Could you even get a 25 man roster from them?

Maybe for the recent expansion teams (FLA, AZ, TB, COL) it might be better to use a 3 year minimum...

 

[Omar 382]

Fuck it, I'm going by city/state name. Arizona is next, and yes, their noviceness (that's not a word) is forcing my hand so I will do a 3 year minimum. Also, one last note; I will only put a player in a certain position if he played the majority of his career at that position. For example, Stan Musial will be counted as a first baseman, not a left fielder or right fielder.

 

[Omar 382]

Arizona Diamondbacks

C- Miguel Montero
1B- Mark Grace (I'm going to get shit for this one- but he did play 3 seasons with ARI!)
2B- Jay Bell
3B- Matt Williams
SS- Stephen Drew
LF- Luis Gonzalez
CF- Steve Finley
RF- Justin Upton

SP- Randy Johnson
SP- Curt Schilling
SP- Brandon Webb
SP- Dan Haren
SP- Daniel Hudson

RP- Brad Ziegler
RP- Matt Mantei
RP- Byung-Hyun Kim
RP- Brandon Lyon
Long-man/sixth starter- Miguel Batista
SU- Jose Valverde
CL- J.J. Putz

Backup catcher- Damian Miller
Backup CI- Paul Goldschmidt
Backup MI- Aaron Hill
Backup OF- A.J. Pollock
Backup OF- Chris Young

 

[MilkSpiller22]

THis one was pretty easy... The only thing I disagree with is Mark Grace over Paul Goldshmidt, I know Goldy is still in the early/mid stages of his career, but his best seasons compare to any of the greats...

 

[Clayton]

Also, one last note; I will only put a player in a certain position if he played the majority of his career at that position. For example, Stan Musial will be counted as a first baseman, not a left fielder or right fielder.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Thats not how baseball works. If your 3rd best player is backing up your best player and can play multiple positions then you get that 3rd best player out there.

 

[Omar 382]

I'm not sure I agree with that. Thats not how baseball works. If your 3rd best player is backing up your best player and can play multiple positions then you get that 3rd best player out there.

I just think it doesn't give a fair representation of the actual team. Then you'll have Stan Musial in left field and Albert Pujols at first base. It just makes it feel too much like a video game for me

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Also, the 5th starter is probably not Hudson... It is a pathetic group of potential 5th starters... But I probably have to give it to Josh Collmenter

 

[Mondo Jay]

It's not not close like comparing John Smoltz to Aaron Harang. But Smoltz had a better WAR, ERA, FIP, xFIP, K/9, and BB/9. Smoltz was significantly hurt by wrongly being used as a reliever for a while, but I don't hold that against him

Being used as a reliever put him over the top for the HOF. The Braves had issues at closer for years and Smoltz (the ultimate team player) moved to the pen to help solve that issue (which he did).

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I just think it doesn't give a fair representation of the actual team. Then you'll have Stan Musial in left field and Albert Pujols at first base. It just makes it feel too much like a video game for me

But teams have moved players all the time... Yankees moved ARod to 3rd base, when he could have and should have still played SS...

and aren't we supposed to have video game like teams?? aren't we trying to create the best team possible??

 

[Omar 382]

Being used as a reliever put him over the top for the HOF. The Braves had issues at closer for years and Smoltz (the ultimate team player) moved to the pen to help solve that issue (which he did).

They would have been much better off leaving him as a starter

 

[Mondo Jay]

They would have been much better off leaving him as a starter

I disagree.

 

[Omar 382]

But teams have moved players all the time... Yankees moved ARod to 3rd base, when he could have and should have still played SS...

and aren't we supposed to have video game like teams?? aren't we trying to create the best team possible??

You can do what you want, but I like putting them at the position they played the most

 

[Omar 382]

I disagree.

He peaked as a 2.9 win player as a reliever. In the years before and after as a SP, he put up 8.4, 6.7, 5.2, 5.4, 5.2, 5.5, and 5.5 win seasons

 

[Mondo Jay]

He peaked as a 2.9 win player as a reliever. In the years before and after as a SP, he put up 8.4, 6.7, 5.2, 5.4, 5.2, 5.5, and 5.5 win seasons

Can you explain to me how WAR is calculated?

 

[Omar 382]

Can you explain to me how WAR is calculated?

Pitching WAR uses FIP (with infield fly balls), adjusted for park, and scaled to how many innings the pitcher threw. FIP is translated into runs, converted to represent value above replacement level, and is then converted from runs to wins.

 

[Mondo Jay]

Pitching WAR uses FIP (with infield fly balls), adjusted for park, and scaled to how many innings the pitcher threw. FIP is translated into runs, converted to represent value above replacement level, and is then converted from runs to wins.

I see. Easy peasy.

 

[Iffster]

Detroit Tigers:

C: Lou Berberet
1B: Steve Bilko
2B: Ted Lepcio
SS: Coot Veal
3B: Flea Clifton
LF: Purnal Goldy
CF: Bill Tuttle
RF: Jimmy Outlaw
DH: Rick Leach
SP: Jim Bunning
SP: Paul Foytack
SP: Don Mossi
SP: Frank Lary
CL: CJ Nitkowski

Composite WAR = Six and 7/8th