A.L. Central Discussion 2016

[broncosmitty]

Victor Martinez OPS+ must be outstanding so far.

 

[da55bums]

I am sure miamivice is at the ballpark in Miami. The Marlins always treat him great....so he says.

He doesn't have time to actually attend games, he is spending every waking hour trying to figure out how to get back on the hoop.

 

[dougplayer]

doug.....I think I am starting to understand. When a Tiger player does something well, they have heart or are a gamer. If they mess up, then they are a bum or a has been.
What I see now is that these can change from game to game. Yesterday KRod was a bum and Greene had heart. But, in your view, that could easily change in a few games when Greene starts a game, gets knocked out in the second inning and becomes a bum. AND, in that same game KRod could get a 2 inning save and have HEART.

From your point of view, "Heart" and "Bum" can change from game to game. Got it!!!!

I never said I was happy about KRod. There is a reason so many teams passed on him. LAST 2 years! We have seen this before. Washed up closer. Tigers take a chance on him. Velverd . Coke,nathan.and now K Rod. Remember Farnsworth also??? We need to find a KID!! YOUNG GUY. LIKE A kimbrel

 

[Howie115]

Doug...you still did not answer. WHY didn't KRod and Lowe have HEART? They were wearing a Tiger uniform!!!!

Lowe looked good today. I'll give him 50% HEART.

 

[dougplayer]

Let's take real truth. If tigers had a bull pen....we win at least 3 rings in last 10 years. With out the royals bull pen. They would have been lucky to win 50 games. Word

 

[dougplayer]

Tigers whipping azz. Another win to start the season. V MART another tater. Salty hit 1 to.....i'am still undecided on him..and Sanchez sharp. Sharp.royals already sniffing tiger tail BAWWWWHAAAS

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Let's take real truth. If tigers had a bull pen....we win at least 3 rings in last 10 years. With out the royals bull pen. They would have been lucky to win 50 games. Word

Yeah, and if the Royals had an offense in 2013 or 2014, they'd have a threepeat going right now.

 

[dougplayer]

Those Rangers started off bad. Looks like handi will be so sour. He just might stick to soccer. Those exciting. 0-0 games easier to stomach

 

[broncosmitty]

I never said I was happy about KRod. There is a reason so many teams passed on him. LAST 2 years! We have seen this before. Washed up closer. Tigers take a chance on him. Velverd . Coke,nathan.and now K Rod. Remember Farnsworth also??? We need to find a KID!! YOUNG GUY. LIKE A kimbrel

I wish you weren't always so pessimistic when it comes to our Tigs.....

 

[dougplayer]

It's ok. Indians getting bent over by the red sox. It's all falling into place already..except those pesky south siders. Who would have thunk they would shoot out of the gate so fast like the tigers???

 

[da55bums]

I never said I was happy about KRod. There is a reason so many teams passed on him. LAST 2 years! We have seen this before. Washed up closer. Tigers take a chance on him. Velverd . Coke,nathan.and now K Rod. Remember Farnsworth also??? We need to find a KID!! YOUNG GUY. LIKE A kimbrel

@MiamiVice says Verhagen is the guy, lol

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

It's ok. Indians getting bent over by the red sox. It's all falling into place already..except those pesky south siders. Who would have thunk they would shoot out of the gate so fast like the tigers???

Yeah, right.

Carrasco, four shut out innings...

 

[broncosmitty]

@MiamiVice says Verhagen is the guy, lol

Don't forget Buck Farmer.

 

[navamind]

Let's take real truth. If tigers had a bull pen....we win at least 3 rings in last 10 years. With out the royals bull pen. They would have been lucky to win 50 games. Word

Aunt, balls, uncle, etc.

 

[bksballer89]

It's ok. Indians getting bent over by the red sox. It's all falling into place already..except those pesky south siders. Who would have thunk they would shoot out of the gate so fast like the tigers???

But they won....

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

I wish you weren't always so pessimistic when it comes to our Tigs.....

What the Tigers need to do is draft a bunch of starting arms with 3 to 4 pitches and the ones that don't pan out as starters need to be fully groomed as BP arms. That is the right way to develop an relief pitcher. You NEVER draft a RP from college like they did Ryan Perry. Getting BP arms that are above 30 in FA is not ideal either. The safest way to to develop through the farm.

 

[broncosmitty]

What the Tigers need to do is draft a bunch of starting arms with 3 to 4 pitches and the ones that don't pan out as starters need to be fully groomed as BP arms. That is the right way to develop an relief pitcher. You NEVER draft a RP from college like they did Ryan Perry. Getting BP arms that are above 30 in FA is not ideal either. The safest way to to develop through the farm.

Huston Street is still my favorite closer, of all time.

 

[broncosmitty]

In all honesty I think there are multiple ways of building a bullpen. Drafting starters and waiting for one to fail isn't any better than the others.

Drafting college closers isn't the best move, trading for expierienced closers is a quicker way to revamp, but it costs youth and is a health gamble, signing experienced closers is costly, both in picks and unnecessary salary, signing foreign amateurs to close is a crap shoot as much as drafting them.

Trading every young arm worth a damn doesn't help a bullpen, but I'm not into prospect collecting either.

I can say it would've been nice to see Big Al be patient rather than jump at the chance to trade for guys who have nowhere to go in their career but down.

 

[handicappers]

i would love to have a charity mma match with you... I bet we could raise some serious money for charity and I would get to beat your old fast ass. Win Win.

I'd gladly do this. I'd beat you within an inch of your life then deport you back to Mexico. But you'd likely flake out and not show up......just like Jason's Deli Parking lot.

 

[Lions=TeHsUcKs]

In all honesty I think there are multiple ways of building a bullpen. Drafting starters and waiting for one to fail isn't any better than the others.

Drafting college closers isn't the best move, trading for expierienced closers is a quicker way to revamp, but it costs youth and is a health gamble, signing experienced closers is costly, both in picks and unnecessary salary, signing foreign amateurs to close is a crap shoot as much as drafting them.

Trading every young arm worth a damn doesn't help a bullpen, but I'm not into prospect collecting either.

I can say it would've been nice to see Big Al be patient rather than jump at the chance to trade for guys who have nowhere to go in their career but down.

I think you just need to go after Mid 20s BP arms with potential to be closers if you want to build your BP through FA ie you have to spend the assets willing to make those deals. There are multiple ways to build the BP but the most solid way is to drafting and developing players properly, no other way around it.