A.L. Central Discussion 2016

[dougplayer]

Maybin. Broken wrist. Must hurt. Iffy? You broke a few haven't you? Not on the field of course. But still playing a little ball. Lol

 

[dougplayer]

Maybin is a bum. No great loss. We still will own the central.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Maybin is a bum. No great loss.

I tend to agree with you. Granted, I don't know much about Maybin's or Gose's defensive abilities, but just considering bats and durability, I'd say Maybin is no great loss.

Talk about a bust. First round draft pick (10th overall), highly-touted prospect (top 10), tore up the minors (.303/.390/.476/.867), only to shit the bed once he gets his call up.

I guess it's just further evidence that the Tigers can't draft/develop talent for shit. I suppose it's a good thing for them that Pizza Boy has no problem backing up the Brinks Truck to drop cash wherever their inept front office deems appropriate.

 

[MiamiVice]

I tend to agree with you. Granted, I don't know much about Maybin's or Gose's defensive abilities, but just considering bats and durability, I'd say Maybin is no great loss.

Talk about a bust. First round draft pick (10th overall), highly-touted prospect (top 10), tore up the minors (.303/.390/.476/.867), only to shit the bed once he gets his call up.

I guess it's just further evidence that the Tigers can't draft/develop talent for shit. I suppose it's a good thing for them that Pizza Boy has no problem banking up the Brinks Truck to drop cash wherever their inept front office deems appropriate.

Gose is a + defender. He is a better defender than Maybin by far.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Gose is a + defender. He is a better defender than Maybin by far.

So why'd they even have Maybin penciled in center? Because they're paying him $6MM? Teams do that shit a lot -- start a less talented player because they're paying them more -- and I don't understand it.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Gose is a + defender. He is a better defender than Maybin by far.

Kudos, by the way, on not taking the bait.

 

[MiamiVice]

So why'd they even have Maybin penciled in center? Because they're paying him $6MM? Teams do that shit a lot -- start a less talented player because they're paying them more -- and I don't understand it.

Not really sure to be honest. Gose doesn't hit lefties well... but he is fine vs righties.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Not really sure to be honest. Gose doesn't hit lefties well... but he is fine vs righties.

Seems like the their bats aren't all that different (admittedly, I only looked at OPS+).

What was the rest of the deal with the Braves? It's possible the Braves just said, you have to take Maybin, and the Tigers just figure 'fuck it, we'll start Maybin since we have him.'

 

[MiamiVice]

Seems like the their bats aren't all that different (admittedly, I only looked at OPS+).

What was the rest of the deal with the Braves? It's possible the Braves just said, you have to take Maybin, and the Tigers just figure 'fuck it, we'll start Maybin since we have him.'

The Braves got shit ass Ian Krol and a low A ball pitcher... the Tigers got Maybin and 3 mil.

 

[Iffster]

The Braves got shit ass Ian Krol and a low A ball pitcher... the Tigers got Maybin and 3 mil.

Vice...remember, at the time they got Maybin, there was just as much talk that he would platoon with Tyler Collins in left. Or some sort of three headed "monster" between Gose, Maybin, and Collins for those two spots.

 

[Iffster]

And Vice....don't forget Mike Aviles is available to step into CF at "any time". LOL

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The Braves got shit ass Ian Krol and a low A ball pitcher... the Tigers got Maybin and 3 mil.

Huh. So Maybin was not a throw in, but rather the main piece? Strange deal.

 

[Iffster]

Huh. So Maybin was not a throw in, but rather the main piece? Strange deal.

Braves salary dump

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Braves salary dump

I understand the Braves side of it, it's the Tigers' side that I don't.

 

[Iffster]

At the time, I just thought they were looking for a replacement for Rajai Davis. Maybin would be the right handed side of a platoon in center or left.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

At the time, I just thought they were looking for a replacement for Rajai Davis. Maybin would be the right handed side of a platoon in center or left.

An oft injured, well-below-average bat for $5.5MM and prospects (shitty or not)? That makes the Indians' Uribe signing look like a stroke of genius.

 

[Iffster]

Well....They paid Rajai Davis $5mil for 2015....so I figured they saw this as a trade off, or at least as close as they could get. No, not a blockbuster deal....although some Tiger fans saw it as such. But yeah, not a lot different than the Tribes signing of Uribe for a similar amount.

BTW....Detroit is also on the hook for $1mil to Maybin to buy out his option for 2017. Unless he has an All Star year and want to pay him $9mil

 

[MiamiVice]

Vice...remember, at the time they got Maybin, there was just as much talk that he would platoon with Tyler Collins in left. Or some sort of three headed "monster" between Gose, Maybin, and Collins for those two spots.

What is your point with this?

 

[MiamiVice]

I understand the Braves side of it, it's the Tigers' side that I don't.

I didn't really either... I guess is was a buy low deal.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Well....They paid Rajai Davis $5mil for 2015....so I figured they saw this as a trade off, or at least as close as they could get. No, not a blockbuster deal....although some Tiger fans saw it as such. But yeah, not a lot different than the Tribes signing of Uribe for a similar amount.

I disagree. I see this vastly different than signing Uribe for a similar amount.

A cursory review of Maybin's numbers shows that 1) he's a well below average bat and 2) he doesn't play a lot of games. I'm curious as to why any team would consider him anything more than a replacement level player.

Now, I'm not expecting Uribe to be a difference maker, but he's been two and a half fuckloads more productive than Maybin has over the last three seasons.