MLB Daily Thread: 9.15.15 Three divisions still up for grabs?

[Used 2 B Hu]

I show my love for said shit teams...Appreciate you 'tards laying down for us all season!

MmmmmmmmWAH!

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Mets dominatin' a shitty division, and they ain't a DAMN thing yew kin dew about it!

BWAH HAH HAH!

Nice team badges hahaha

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Should also point out that the Braves were a .500 team at the break and the Mets played 9 of their 12 games to date against them before then.

 

[bksballer89]

That is.. not accurate:

Aug 11 - @ Cleveland - L 5-4
Aug 12 - @ Cleveland - L 2-1
Aug 13 - @ Cleveland - W 8-6
Aug 14 - @ Toronto - W 4-3
Aug 15 - @ Toronto - W 4-1
Aug 16 - @ Toronto - L 3-1
Aug 28 - @ Atlanta - W 15-4
Aug 29 - @ Atlanta - W 3-1
Aug 30 - @ Atlanta - W 20-6
Aug 31 - @ Boston - L 4-3
Sep 1 - @ Boston - W 3-1
Sep 2 - @ Boston - W 13-8
Sep 14 - @ Tampa - W 4-1

I count 9 wins and 4 losses.

I also see all but two of those 9 wins coming against teams below .500, so maybe not something to brag about while you're criticizing the Mets for hoarding wins vs. losing teams.

I was going by what I saw on the Yankees post game last night. You look really stupid defending the Mets. Everyone know their schedule been shit. Boston and Tampa aren't great teams but they're much better than the Braves, Marlins, Phillies, and etc. I'm criticizing the Mets more for their schedule against over .500 teams which is proof that their record comes from beating up the 3 teams fighting for the #1 pick in their division who they get to play 19 times. Would you rather play the O's, Rays, & Sox 57 times or Marlins, Phils, & Braves?

 

[bksballer89]

New York owns a 45-20 record against the four other teams in its weak division. In contrast, the Mets are 7-21 combined against the four other NL teams in line for the playoffs.

 

[TDs3nOut]

Which plays a bigger role in postseason success: how good a team's starting rotation is or that team's strength of schedule in the regular season?

 

[Mondo Jay]

Is it 2017 yet?

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I'm criticizing the Mets more for their schedule against over .500 teams which is proof that their record comes from beating up the 3 teams fighting for the #1 pick in their division who they get to play 19 times. Would you rather play the O's, Rays, & Sox 57 times or Marlins, Phils, & Braves?

Hilarious.

Yankees fans for years defended their shit division. "Hey, we can only play the teams in front of us..."

 

[Villain]

Three divisions -- ALE, ALW, and NLC -- still look to be very much contestable. As the Royals showed last year, however, winning the division is not necessary, let alone sufficient, for postseason success.

Both WS teams were wildcards last year. Crazy.

The fallacy of the mets /dodgers

Vs 500 teams

As soon as someone says "vs 500 teams" I lose interest in their point.

 

[bksballer89]

Hilarious.

Yankees fans for years defended their shit division. "Hey, we can only play the teams in front of us..."

AL East never been this bad. And we almost always had one good team. The Nats are mediocre and the other 3 are AAA teams

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I was going by what I saw on the Yankees post game last night. You look really stupid defending the Mets. Everyone know their schedule been shit. Boston and Tampa aren't great teams but they're much better than the Braves, Marlins, Phillies, and etc. I'm criticizing the Mets more for their schedule against over .500 teams which is proof that their record comes from beating up the 3 teams fighting for the #1 pick in their division who they get to play 19 times. Would you rather play the O's, Rays, & Sox 57 times or Marlins, Phils, & Braves?

I'm not even defending the Mets, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy in ripping one team for beating up on weakerthans then immediately following that up by flaunting your team's record against mediocre teams.

Hell, I've even said in here multiple times that the Mets are benefitting greatly by having the easiest schedule post-deadline. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[bksballer89]

I'm not even defending the Mets, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy in ripping one team for beating up on weakerthans then immediately following that up by flaunting your team's record against mediocre teams.

Hell, I've even said in here multiple times that the Mets are benefitting greatly by having the easiest schedule post-deadline. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I wasn't flaunting anything actually. Yanks have done fine against teams over .500 excluding the Jays. This isn't a team who record is a product of beating bad teams

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I wasn't flaunting anything actually. Yanks have done fine against teams over .500 excluding the Jays. This isn't a team who record is a product of beating bad teams

Minus the Jays games (and I don't know why we're excluding them here, but...), the Yankees are 21-18 against +.500 teams. That's fine, like you said, but considering that if you remove the team the Mets played the worst against from the equation as well (Cubs), they're 23-26 against +.500 clubs. The differences between the two aren't exactly vast here in terms of performances against better clubs.

 

[Villain]

Seriously, in-season record versus teams better than or equal to .500 is not a thing. It doesn't correlate to postseason success. It's such a waste of time to worry about that.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Seriously, in-season record versus teams better than or equal to .500 is not a thing. It doesn't correlate to postseason success. It's such a waste of time to worry about that.

Indeed. Detroit played in a terrible division for years and benefited from beating up on the wee ones. They still managed to get to 2 WS and 2 ALCS' during their run.

 

[obxyankeefan]

regardless of what your division looks like, good teams should win 2/3 against bad teams and 1/2 against good teams.

 

[Clayton]

Seriously, in-season record versus teams better than or equal to .500 is not a thing. It doesn't correlate to postseason success. It's such a waste of time to worry about that.

Mets are only 7th in run differential, too.

They are a one trick pony - great pitching. If that slips for some reason then they'll go lose a lot (see: the Cardinals the past 10 games or so)

 

[Villain]

regardless of what your division looks like, good teams should win 2/3 against bad teams and 1/2 against good teams.

Mets are only 7th in run differential, too.

They are a one trick pony - great pitching. If that slips for some reason then they'll go lose a lot (see: the Cardinals the past 10 games or so)

That's a pretty good trick.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

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That's a pretty good trick.

Bwah!

I think what he's trying to say is, win the majority of the games you play against bad teams, then win at least half of the games you play against good teams.

I don't recall whose managerial formula it was, maybe Ron Gardenhire's or Sparky Anderson's or Ted Turner's, but it was essentially "win more than half your games at home, go .500 on the road, and beat the shit out of the bad teams."

And we all know the infamous "You're going to win 50 games, you're going to lose 50 games, it's what you do with the other 50 that count." (Yeah, that was before the season was extended to 162)

 

[obxyankeefan]

Trevor Cahill grounds out 9-3 and it wasn't even close.