2024 Trade Deadline

[tzill]

could be bullshit clickbait.

 

[calsnowskier]

could be bullshit clickbait.

I have heard the rumblings elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean there is any “there there”.

 

[LHG]

Seems like a dumb idea to trade Doval when his value has gone down and he still has multiple years of control. Of course, his production could fall off a cliff next year . . .

 

[sf1giantfan]

I have lost a lot of faith in him, but who do we have to take his spot?

 

[calsnowskier]

I have lost a lot of faith in him, but who do we have to take his spot?

Miller, Walker, Rogers (x2), Rodriguez, Crawford…

 

[LHG]

Miller, Walker, Rogers (x2), Rodriguez, Crawford…

Crawford would need to be healthy first.

Taylor Rogers does have the experience.

Miller and Rodriguez have not been much better than Doval this year.

Walker has no closing experience (without looking, at least that is what I remember).

Tyler Rogers has been used in that role before, temporarily, with mixed results. The team may be hesitant to take him out of a role he is good at and put him in a spot that he has struggled in.

 

[sf1giantfan]

Crawford would need to be healthy first.

Taylor Rogers does have the experience.

Miller and Rodriguez have not been much better than Doval this year.

Walker has no closing experience (without looking, at least that is what I remember).

Tyler Rogers has been used in that role before, temporarily, with mixed results. The team may be hesitant to take him out of a role he is good at and put him in a spot that he has struggled in.

I like the role Tyler is in now. We do have other pitchers but don’t see anyone who seems to be a closer at this point.

 

[tzill]

Hicks.

 

[calsnowskier]

Hicks.

Not sure he would be too happy with it, but the Giants gave him a LEGIT shot at starting, and he has hit the wall. Moving him to closer for the remainder of THIS YEAR wouldn’t/shouldn’t exclude from a squatters position in the rotation next year.

 

[Sandisfan]

I saw on CBS sports an article guessing on moves and one was the Giants moving Lucy for Bo Bicchette(sp). Don't know if this has any credibility.

 

[tzill]

Not sure he would be too happy with it, but the Giants gave him a LEGIT shot at starting, and he has hit the wall. Moving him to closer for the remainder of THIS YEAR wouldn’t/shouldn’t exclude from a squatters position in the rotation next year.

Agreed. It'd be tricky but if they trade Camilo they could say "we need you, bro" and he might buy in.

 

[tzill]

I saw on CBS sports an article guessing on moves and one was the Giants moving Lucy for Bo Bicchette(sp). Don't know if this has any credibility.

That's the name that keeps getting thrown around for us to be buyers.

It'd be a mistake. Even if Luci ends up being a DH, Bichette isn't worth it IMO. He's having a terrible year. Like, sent to the minors bad. OTOH, he's only 26 so he could pull out of it. If he regresses to his mean it would be a HUGE second half for him.

 

[msgkings322]

That's the name that keeps getting thrown around for us to be buyers.

It'd be a mistake. Even if Luci ends up being a DH, Bichette isn't worth it IMO. He's having a terrible year. Like, sent to the minors bad. OTOH, he's only 26 so he could pull out of it. If he regresses to his mean it would be a HUGE second half for him.

The thing is every trade has possible upside and downside, it's always a risk. You give up something to get something and hope what you get is at least as good as what you give, or at least fits a need that what you give doesn't. There are no zero risk trades.

 

[tzill]

The thing is every trade has possible upside and downside, it's always a risk. You give up something to get something and hope what you get is at least as good as what you give, or at least fits a need that what you give doesn't. There are no zero risk trades.

Agreed. But if it's Luci for Bichette (and in a sellers market it'd be at LEAST that) I'm not interested. Luci's bat is SPECIAL, and we have the DH now.

Trade Soler.

 

[msgkings322]

Agreed. But if it's Luci for Bichette (and in a sellers market it'd be at LEAST that) I'm not interested. Luci's bat is SPECIAL, and we have the DH now.

Trade Soler.

If his bat is so special (are there stats backing that up?) sure, trade our DH and let him be that.

 

[calsnowskier]

If his bat is so special (are there stats backing that up?) sure, trade our DH and let him be that.

Luciano isn’t a finished product by any stretch. RIGHT NOW Soler is a better piece.

But by all accounts I have seen, his bat is special, and probably ready for the MLB right now. It is his glove that is holding him back.

But Bichette is only 26, so it isn’t like we are getting a guy who has already crested the summit. Sure, Bichette will hit his “pay years” sooner than Lucky, but I don’t care about that. The Giants can afford anything. It is more a matter of if they can convince him to stay (valid concern).

 

[LHG]

Luciano isn’t a finished product by any stretch. RIGHT NOW Soler is a better piece.

But by all accounts I have seen, his bat is special, and probably ready for the MLB right now. It is his glove that is holding him back.

But Bichette is only 26, so it isn’t like we are getting a guy who has already crested the summit. Sure, Bichette will hit his “pay years” sooner than Lucky, but I don’t care about that. The Giants can afford anything. It is more a matter of if they can convince him to stay (valid concern).

Is Bichette’s glove better than Luciano’s? I hear bad things about both.

 

[calsnowskier]

Is Bichette’s glove better than Luciano’s? I hear bad things about both.

No idea.

 

[msgkings322]

MLB.TV just said Giants have one of the easiest schedules remaining, they are saying pretty positive things regarding their potential rotation along with the schedule.

 

[tzill]

Well, glass half full:

1. Snell looks like Snellzilla again
2. Webb is Webbing
3. Harry won't be overworked this year
4. Ray looks filthy
5. Bird/Cobb/Hicks is a nice #5 situation
6. LWJ is getting healthy
7. Tyro could revert to his norm
8. Wise seems to be legit at SS
9. Chap might not K every AB
10. Matos could emerge
11. Heliot is Heliot
12. Yaz/Forto is a nice third OF situation
13. Bully is pretty solid.
14. Bailey is very solid.